Support for a new Technical section

[andrew_nixon]

This is a good idea, but only if the number of technical threads in other forums increase to the point where it is actually needed.

You don't create a forum for posts that aren't being made.

 

[sid_19840]

All the staff members are saying the same thing that the thread will not be frequently posted at etc.

But look at it from another angle,if the section is made it will encourage topics on technical things,there will be a lot more interest in patching and the tools involved in it.Ofcourse demand matters,which is why u made new sections previously,but this section is directly connected with the purpose of the forum which is to encourage patching.So i beleive it has more nessecity than other stuff like milestone subforum etc.I hope u understand what im trying to say.

 

[andrew_nixon]

You create a forum to meet demand, not to create demand.

There aren't many technical topics at the moment. If we put them all in separate forum, there still won't be many.

If people are interested in patching, they'll create patches wether or not there is a technical forum. A technical forum is not going to make more people patch the games. If anything, a technical forum will make it look like patching is something only for the few, something that is so hard it needs it's own discussion forum, and it would more likely put people of patching.

The purpose of this forum is not to encourage patching, as you say, it is to encourage discussion about Cricket games, and cricket itself. Patching is a natural byproduct of that, not the main point of this forum.

 

[sid_19840]

It's not going to attract anyone else to patching- if someone is dedicated enough to want to learn the stuff then they'll post where they see fit, you talk like someone's going to see a technical section or whatever and think "hey, I've just realised that my lifelong dream was to edit cricket games". In reality most newbies to patching will see a technical section and steer clear of it because of the connotations of the word itself.

The concepts you're discussing here are worthy of a few threads, which are naturally spread between C2k5, BLIC and Gen Chat. If you get a new forum we're going to have a Technical forum with a few threads a month, gen chat with nothing but "lol wats ur favrit colour" and such and c2k5 and BLIC forums with nothing but "how do u bat" or "this game sux". The reason you'd create a forum is to meet existing demand, say for example when we had about 5 milestone threads a day being posted we made the new subforum for it- what you're trying to do is create demand by making a new forum, doesn't work.

I disagree,

It will encourage more patchers,

1)New members will know exactly where to go if they are interested in the matter(most new members dont even know what all is inside the general forum etc,most wouldnt know that such things exist)

2)Even if some members are not deeply interested in patching,they may read the posts by others and generate interest from that.

3)Current patchers may also share their knowledge to improve their patching.

I generally agree that new sections should be made only when the others sections are being flooded with those topics,but for a technical section it is not the case,a new technical section encourages new posts and thread instead of vice-versa.

Your comment that if someone is really interested they would post is not applicable in many case.Many times we dont even know the a,b,c of a particular software,then we dont know how to start the thread,but if views are being exchanged in the technical thread by other members then this member automatically gains some information and he gets a basic idea on the matter after which if he has some query he can post a new thread or continue in the existing one.So what I mainly trying to say is that unless a technical section is opened there wont be any genuine interest towards patching.

SUPPORT THE TECHNICAL SECTION,ITS GOOD FOR THE PC COMMUNITY

You create a forum to meet demand, not to create demand.

There aren't many technical topics at the moment. If we put them all in separate forum, there still won't be many.

If people are interested in patching, they'll create patches wether or not there is a technical forum. A technical forum is not going to make more people patch the games. If anything, a technical forum will make it look like patching is something only for the few, something that is so hard it needs it's own discussion forum, and it would more likely put people of patching.

The purpose of this forum is not to encourage patching, as you say, it is to encourage discussion about Cricket games, and cricket itself. Patching is a natural byproduct of that, not the main point of this forum.

Well if you keep going that way soon the number of patchers will diminish considerably and the forum would be only a general cricket based forum.

Take an example,football,if the clubs had an attitude that we only care about football,if people are really interested in football they will automatically try themselves and become a footballer,football would have never been so popular,its because that the game is being encouraged and there are youth academies that we are seeing new players coming through.

Similarly we need to encourage patching in the comunity.If im not mistaken most people want to see this forum contribute more towards patching for future cricket games as well.Once again id like to repeat that i have nothing personal against any staff member,its my observation in the short period that I have been a member.

Also id like to add that why doesnt the staff try new things,evertime following a certain set of rules isnt a good idea,just try it out im sure it will be a good thing for the pc community,and pl try to understand that im saying all this because i care for this site and want it to improve otherwise i wouldnt have bothered.

Can u please explain what problems will occur on creating such a section,

Do u think the number of already so small active members will further reduce?

What is the problem you all see in making such a section?

 

[brad352]

Can u please explain what problems will occur on creating such a section,

Do u think the number of already so small active members will further reduce?

What is the problem you all see in making such a section?

Simple, it's unnecessary and won't achieve anything- to quote Andrew and save repeating myself, "You create a forum to meet demand, not to create demand." If the demand grows, obviously it may need to be looked at, but at this point we don't need it

 

[Skater]

Planet Cricket is being ruined by the admins because they wont change anything and its making the forum very dull.

New skin, new forums, new everything. then we will have a nice place!

 

[sid_19840]

You are just preassuming that it will be a waste of space,i cant understand why the staff members are thinking this way,if you are just satisfied with meeting demands then soon there will be a lot more frustrated downloaders with just a handfull of patchers,just look at the c2005 thread for eg. just because most members dont have the knowledge and people are losing interest in patching we cant even solve the lineup problem completely and we are depending on the same people to make editors for the game,cmon guys its high time that we act properly,I mean what im saying.

Planet Cricket is being ruined by the admins because they wont change anything and its making the forum very dull.

New skin, new forums, new everything. then we will have a nice place!

Exactly members are getting tired of the same things,most are losing interest and its up to the staff to take care,and generate new interest.If you keep following the same patterns every time its not doing any good.


SUPPORT THE TECHNICAL SECTION,ITS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Planet Cricket is being ruined by the admins because they wont change anything and its making the forum very dull.

New skin, new forums, new everything. then we will have a nice place!

Sorry? Oh, ofcourse it's being ruined, that's why it's still immensely popular and has new members joining everyday. If there isn't a huge demand for something, it won't happen and I wouldn't say this idea has had what you'd call huge demand. 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' is what I say.

 

[squiz]

Planet Cricket is being ruined by the admins because they wont change anything and its making the forum very dull.

New skin, new forums, new everything. then we will have a nice place!

Well if you don't like the place now then why don't you leave? But it doesn't seem you want to so we must be doing something right!

 

[sid_19840]

Look every staff member has to say the same thing there's no demand,u cant prejudge the amount of demand this section will have unless you see it for yourself,and it can never reduce the amount of members only encourage more to the thread.

 

[brad352]

Planet Cricket is being ruined by the admins because they wont change anything and its making the forum very dull.

New skin, new forums, new everything. then we will have a nice place!

Change for the sake of change, what exactly do you think a new empty forum will achieve? The skins are a separate issue

You are just preassuming that it will be a waste of space,i cant understand why the staff members are thinking this way,if you are just satisfied with meeting demands then soon there will be a lot more frustrated downloaders with just a handfull of patchers,just look at the c2005 thread for eg. just because most members dont have the knowledge and people are losing interest in patching we cant even solve the lineup problem completely and we are depending on the same people to make editors for the game,cmon guys its high time that we act properly,I mean what im saying.

Like Andrew said, if people are interested in patching, they'll create patches whether or not there is a technical forum. A technical forum is not going to make more people patch the games.

Exactly members are getting tired of the same things,most are losing interest

Sorry, didn't realise that you spoke for everybody- guess the booming numbers of members and posts mean nothing?

 

[sid_19840]

Its as if you guys think that unless 500 ppl support this idea or unless there are 100 existing thread on the subject you wont make a new section.What matters is quality not quantity,a single thread may be very useful for thousands of members.

 

[brad352]

Its as if you guys think that unless 500 ppl support this idea or unless there are 100 existing thread on the subject you wont make a new section.What matters is quality not quantity,a single thread may be very useful for thousands of members.

The point is, that single thread would be right at home in the Cricket 2005 forum, or the BLIC forum, we don't need another forum before we can make threads about patching.

 

[Skater]

To make Planet Cricket better it needs to achieve these:

- A fresh new look for the website, sort of a 'decorating job'.
- A 'newbies' forum, where new users can introduce themselves (and find the FAQ quickly and easily).
- A Cricket Shopping forum, where users can showcase items and find a link to a buying page e.g Amazon.
- Cricket Coach to have its own forum.
- A Technical forum, where users can showcase their work and find help for programs e.g Windows XP.

Out of all those, only the Cricket Coach one has been granted! Planet Cricket is an awesome site, but the admin is quite stubborn!

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Look every staff member has to say the same thing there's no demand

We don't have to say anything, it just happens to be what we think. I noticed you said earlier that you got alot of support for the idea from pm's etc. Let's see how many have pm'd you about it then, show us and prove that its worth implementing the idea.