Draft: The Pre-Twenty20 Draft

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IAN HEALY :aus: :wk:
With over 600 dismissals behind the stumps, he's one of the most successful wicketkeeper we know. Healy held the world record for the most dismissals in Cricket at the time of his retirement, he was in command after Australia's most successful wicketkeeper Rod Marsh retired while subsequently after Healy's retirement Gilly took over and the rest is history. He was a brilliant keeper to quicks like McGrath while his partnership with Warne had some great moments. "Ian Healy was comfortably the best keeper in my time from any country," Warne said in 2015. He set the benchmark for others to follow behind the stumps and was a handy batsman down the order, a strike rate of 83.84. In the shorter format we need an agile wicket keeper who can get you those run-outs, stumpings and is able to react quickly to the situation.

My team so far:
:bat:Michael Bevan :aus:
:wkb:Ian Healy :aus:
:ar:Ian Botham :eng:
:bwl:Curtly Ambrose :wi:
 

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Healy... interesting call. I was initially struggling to come with a keeper then got a "longlist" of 4 - 2 were Lindsay and Engineer, but didn't have Healy I must admit. Good keeper I must say. But Warne was wrong, the best keeper in that time was Jack Russell, but sadly he only ever played 3 Ashes tests which was disgraceful.

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Edit - Jack Russell isn't available btw... he played 2 T20s.
 

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The best keeper in that time was Jack Russell
A genius for certain; amazing that he continued to be so good after literally displacing his hips through wicket-keeping. I'm trying to think of anyone worth disputing that "best keeper" tag for but I really don't think there's anyone - possibly ever
 

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A genius for certain; amazing that he continued to be so good after literally displacing his hips through wicket-keeping. I'm trying to think of anyone worth disputing that "best keeper" tag for but I really don't think there's anyone - possibly ever

I mean I'm biased because I'm a Gloucester boy but he'd be my pick of best keeper ever... he's certainly the best I've seen, but I wouldn't really have seen much before him so perhaps it's unfair of me to say that. But he deserved to be treated a lot lot better than he was.
 

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:ind: :bat: Vijay Merchant

With a first class average second only to Bradman, I can say that he could have been a huge run scorer had he played more tests. He racked plenty of runs in the domestic circuit.
Not quite the aggressive player but he could play swing and spin well, which is useful specially while opening.

Not the greatest of pick but I feel he could play the anchor of the team and preserve his wicket in the power play. He could even play 1 down.


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Overall Pick #27: Mike Procter
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Seriously, how has Mike Procter not been picked yet? I would have had him as my first pick, but I gambled three times that others might overlook him. I cannot justify one more such gamble. In my opinion, he is the greatest all-rounder in cricket history despite having been robbed of so much of his Test career as a result of South Africa's sporting exclusion. He is one of only three batsmen ever to have hit six centuries in consecutive first-class innings alongside Don Bradman and CB Fry. But the kicker: Mike Procter was a bowler. And not just a bowler but a bowler. A devastating, fast, skilled, unique bowler. In his embryonic Test career, he accumulated numbers which would have made him an instant all-time great had they been sustained over a longer timeframe as they undoubtedly would have been. But if anything, it turned out that he wasn't best at being a Test or first-class bowler: he was a specialist death bowler, a genius who used his wrong-footed action to generate enough in-swing that he could bowl around the wicket and simulate a left-arm bowler coming wider of the crease than the human body and laws of the game would usually allow. And he did it well. He took his wickets at eighteen apiece, and conceded barely over three runs per over. That's obscene. That's Mike Procter.

Comparable T20 Player
There isn't one. With the bat, he'd be in very high demand; I feel comfortable saying that as a specialist batsman he had the skill to be a player like Andrew Symonds in the modern era. But he wasn't a specialist batsman; he also turned his peerless talent to being a bowler with similar attributes to Mitchell Starc, if Starc were more consistent and harder to face.


Finest Performances
To specify a single Procter performance by myself would be too difficult, so I'm just going to link you to what YouTube has available.

Role in the Team
Mike Procter's role in this team is to just be Mike Procter. For now I'll bat him at six, but that could change depending upon who else I pick. He would also be happily reunited with Zaheer Abbas, his Gloucestershire team-mate for ten years in the 1970s and early 80s. Seriously @blockerdave how have you not picked him already?

Aislabie's XI so far:
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2. :aus: Don Bradman (Pick #3)
3. :pak: Zaheer Abbas (Pick #12)
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6. :saf: Mike Procter (Pick #27)
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10. :eng: Sydney Barnes (Pick #16)
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Ah not Procter!!! Man I thought everyone was gonna go for the 80s all rounders and I was safe... he was one of my next couple of picks... I literally have 3 guys one of which was him and I’ve been really struggling to decide the order

Ah ah ah aha no!!
 

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I even literally tracked down the YouTube of his 4 wickets in 5 balls vs Hampshire the other day ready for my post


I only hadn’t picked him yet because I thought you were likely to pick Jessop!!

Aargh!
 

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Losing Procter makes my next choice easy - the only player on my long list that I would be equally (perhaps more) gutted to lose out on.

Step forward Franklyn DaCosta Stephenson.

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FRANKLYN STEPHENSON

Not to give people ideas for the “no test cap” draft, but Franklyn is easily one of the greatest players never to play international cricket.

As @T.J.Hooker told me in another thread - in the 1981 Lancashire League Stephenson outperformed Michael Holding to top the bowler list of wickets taken and bowling average.

He had it all - a fine bowler who was just short of genuine pace but who’s height gave him difficult bounce (you wouldn’t want to face him and van der Bijl at the other end - who do you attack?) as well as possessing a lethal slower ball - perfect for T20. He took 448 List A wickets at 19.91 with an economy rate of 3.74 and a strike rate of 31.9 (he took 5 wickets in an inns 9 times in list A plus 4 wickets a further 17 times.)

He was genuine all rounder as a hard hitting batsman with 12 FC and 2 list A hundreds (as well as 43 FC and 16 list A 50s). In T20 he’d be able to bat almost anywhere, and be hard to contain. He remains the last man to do the County Championship double of 1000 runs and a 100 wickets, which he achieved by scoring tons in each inns of the last match of the 1988 season (he also took 11 wickets in the match, but was already well past 100 wickets - somehow Notts still lost!).

He was also a fine fielder, agile “for a big man”, with a strong throw and good hands.

Oh, and while he’s more famous for his feats with Notts, he also played for Gloucestershire!

Due to the circumstances of his being banned by West Indies after going on the Rebel tour to South Africa, he played most of his career knowing he’d never have international cricket to aspire to. If he had perhaps his numbers would have been even better.

If you think the great West Indies side of 1984 that beat England 5-0 had the likes of Eldine Baptiste and Milton Small as 4th bowler, you see the Stephenson-sized hole that would have made one of the greatest teams of all time even better. Its self-inflicted of course, that he went on the Rebel tour as a 23 year old rather than await the call up that was surely imminent, but what a waste of talent.

As it is he remains one of the most chronically underrated players of all time.

But with over 4,717 List A runs alongside his 448 wickets, I am certain he'd have been a God of T20

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Two fantastic picks! Procter was on my shortlist but I didn’t know that he was that good. Stephenson would have definitely made the Windies team of the 80s OP, it was a shame that he had to go on that fateful rebel tour.

@Aislabie surely the first post needs updating now? :p
 

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