Whats the difference between the BEST and the REST?

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Warney, McGrath, Ponting, Hussey, Bell, Pieterson, Flintoff

just to name a few Australians and Englishman who have made it to the top of the game.

What is the difference between these superstars and those who are left playing club cricket or are fringe county players

Is it the standard, the work ethic or just the oppotunities given?
 
Naturally gifted, determination, luck, good coaches. There are loads of things that do it. Supportive parents is another thing that can help
 
Hard work determination and a little bit of arrogance(confidence in own ability).

I dont believe in naturally gifted.
Its from practice/training.

Hussey didnt just pick up the bat an play superbly straight away.
It was years of practice at home against his brother in the backyard.
Studied his favourite batsmen and changed from batting right handed to bat left handed like his idol.
 
While a huge part of it goes down to raw ability, professionalism, determination and sheer bloodymindedness at times, coaching and just a love of the sport there is also luck and being in the right place at the right time. Take Ryan Sidebottom for example, I'm not about to say he's the best bowler in the world or something but he toiled away on the county circuit largely unrewarded and when he returned to the England team a lot of people just thought he was a decent county pro and wouldn't have much luck against top batsmen but instead he has become our best bowler (although against Jimmy Anderson, that isn't saying much!). Surely he can't be unique and there are other great talents going unrecognised and unrewarded, its just that for some reason or another they aren't given a chance at international level.
 
Mentality is a huge part. Ramprakash for instance is as talented as most of this current top 6, yet his test record was very poor for his qualities.
 
It'll come down to a fair few factors but one of the biggest and probably the most uncontrollable is luck.

You can be blessed with all the natural talent in the world but if you're never spotted then you're chance of making it lessens each passing day. Of course you can maximise the probability of getting spotted by working hard at your game etc but you still need to be in the right place at the right time.

Take the recently retired Trescothick, when young he was tipped for big things but he then had 7 fallow years on the county scene, if it wasn't for him hitting a big ton in front of Fletcher at Glamorgan (iirc) then he would probably have missed the boat when it came to the international game. Yet, that one knock swung it in his favour when the national coach was looking for an opener for the one day team.

If we take luck out of the equation then it's going to come down to things like natural talent, application and mental attitude. Take Harmison for example, his has all the attributes (save for a slight flaw in his action) to be a great yet (for whatever reason) he's mentally weak. As mentioned earlier Ramprakash, a wonderful player but when younger he remained in his shell too much and often let the opposition get under his skin so his talent was wasted. Hick, a wonderful player on most pitches but a fragile ego - the list goes on and on.

Swinging this back around to what I think you want to hear, then at your age the best thing you can do is learn the basics, absorb knowledge from older, more experience players, practice hard, learn your own game inside out and never back away from the challenge (whatever it may be). Generally speaking if you're good enough you'll get a chance to shine, it's the years of hard work beforehand that divides those that are able to take it and those that let it slip from their grasp.
 
I dont believe in naturally gifted.
Its from practice/training.
If Brett Lee's abilities come only from practice, why did Glenn McGrath, arguably the most successful fast bowler ever, not ever develop Lee's pace? Obviously those who do not practice do not hone their abilities, but the ability must be there. There is a basic physical (and mental; I don't recommend teaching a 2 year old the game) requirement to be able to play cricket. Beyond that is what defines talent. Some have better reactions than others. Some have greater natural co-ordination or balance.

Some elements are merely a head start; you can improve your physical fitness, your concentration or temperament. However a natural can be said to have an increased aptitude.

Other elements you can describe in no other way than as a natural advantage. Height and build are described largely by genetics. One can not train themselves to be a tall fast bowler without already being tall.
 
They are just lucky guys. Anyone who has chance to play at highest level will give his 100% so hard work is not what separate players. Attitude do separate them. Why only some players succeed is because of the attitude towards game.

But most lucky were Bermuda players who with 1/10th the talent of any decent test playing countrys domestic side played alongside Tendulkar, Jayasuriya and co.
 
I disagree with that, I think a top pro is far luckier than a Bermudan player who gets a 1 off game against a top side. Put it this way, Kevin Pietersen is far luckier than Dwayne Leverock, who'd you rather be ?
 
Well probablility of KP going on to play international cricket was 100000 times that of Leverock but yeah I would rather be in KP shoes. Size is also one criteria here :p
 
Well i wouldnt want to be on a brink of a heart attack but yet again who would want to support england and play for england?:what
 
Hard work determination and a little bit of arrogance(confidence in own ability).

I dont believe in naturally gifted.
Its from practice/training.

Hussey didnt just pick up the bat an play superbly straight away.
It was years of practice at home against his brother in the backyard.
Studied his favourite batsmen and changed from batting right handed to bat left handed like his idol.

I COMPLETLY disagree there mate, it is from practice training but you do have to be naturally gifted or have an eye for the thing you do to be the very best. I could probably become a top class cricketer if I started training now at the age of 18........only problem is I'd be like 35-45 by the time I'm ready to go professional.

Natural gift is a definate. On the subject I guess most sports are like this, you get the world beaters,then the mediocore players then the crapish ones.

Works like that in Football, Cricket not sure if it does like that in Rugby but I'm guessing it does.
 

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