Domestic Cricket Research

[Mark Baldwin]

Hi everyone, I really hope some of you can help me with research I am doing for a new cricket game. I am looking for detailed information on domestic cricket. The idea is that the player has a clear progression outlined, so they start at lower leagues and work their way up to play at the top competitions both at a club level and international.

It's been very difficult to find this information for anything below the Ranji Trophy and Vijay Hazare Trophy in India and anything below the Quaid-i-Azam Trophy in Pakistan. I already have lots of information for England, Australia and New Zealand.

So basically, any information would really help me out here or just a pointer in the right direction. Feel free to ask any questions.

Thanks in advance.
Mark

 

[Till Valhalla]

go to cricinfo.com select India from countries and wait for the page to load.then point your mouse on competitions a drop down list will appear.dang and you get it.

 

[UK768]

I'm willing to help You with Pakistani cricket, but I just want You to be a bit more specific with things You need help.

 

[Mark Baldwin]

I'm willing to help You with Pakistani cricket, but I just want You to be a bit more specific with things You need help.

First of all, thanks for offering to help with the structure of Pakistani Cricket. This is what I've found out already:-

Quaid-e-Azam Trophy Gold League

Teams:-

Rawalpindi Rams
Lahore Lions
Sui Northern
Karachi Dolphins
United Bank
Water & Power
Peshawar Panthers
Port Qasim
Zarai Taraqiati
Islamabad Leopards
National Bank
Multan Tigers

Number of teams 12
Promotion places 0
Relegation places 0
Points for a win 4
Points for a draw / no result 2
Points for a tie 2
Points for a loss 0
Match length 50 overs

Quaid-e-Azam Trophy Silver League 1

Teams:-

Quetta Bears
Pakistan TV
Karachi Zebras
Pakistan Airlines
Khan Research Labs
Lahore Eagles
Hyderabad Hawks

Quaid-e-Azam Trophy Silver League 2

Teams:-

Abbottabad Falcons
State Bank
Sialkot Stallions
Bahawalpur Stags
Habib Bank
Sui Southern Gas
Faisalabad Wolves

Basically, I want to know if there is another competition that runs alongside these, such as a 20-20 competition. I would also love to know if there are other teams playing in other competitions at a lower level. I want the player to start at a lower level club and work up to playing at a bigger club and then international games and competitions.

 

[UK768]

First of all, thanks for offering to help with the structure of Pakistani Cricket. This is what I've found out already:-

Quaid-e-Azam Trophy Gold League

Teams:-

Rawalpindi Rams
Lahore Lions
Sui Northern
Karachi Dolphins
United Bank
Water & Power
Peshawar Panthers
Port Qasim
Zarai Taraqiati
Islamabad Leopards
National Bank
Multan Tigers

Number of teams 12
Promotion places 0
Relegation places 0
Points for a win 4
Points for a draw / no result 2
Points for a tie 2
Points for a loss 0
Match length 50 overs

Quaid-e-Azam Trophy Silver League 1

Teams:-

Quetta Bears
Pakistan TV
Karachi Zebras
Pakistan Airlines
Khan Research Labs
Lahore Eagles
Hyderabad Hawks

Quaid-e-Azam Trophy Silver League 2

Teams:-

Abbottabad Falcons
State Bank
Sialkot Stallions
Bahawalpur Stags
Habib Bank
Sui Southern Gas
Faisalabad Wolves

Basically, I want to know if there is another competition that runs alongside these, such as a 20-20 competition. I would also love to know if there are other teams playing in other competitions at a lower level. I want the player to start at a lower level club and work up to playing at a bigger club and then international games and competitions.

The Quaid-e-Azam trophy is basically a first-class tournament. The list-a league is the Haier President's Cup. And just like the Quaid-e-Azam trophy, it is split between two divisions (Gold & Silver). The gold division has two groups. The silver division has three groups. The Twenty20 competition we had, is now defunct. Because of Pakistan Super League's inauguration.

Haier President's Cup One-Day (Gold)

Teams:-

Group I -
Karachi Dolphins
National Bank
Sui Gas
Peshawar Panthers
Zarai Taraqiati
Rawalpindi Rams

Group II -
Khan Research Labs
State Bank
Port Qasim Authority
Lahore Lions
Islamabad Leopards
Karachi Zebras

Number of teams 12 (6 in each group)
Format : Single round robin, semi finals & final
Promotion places 0
Relegation places 2 (1 from each group)
Points for a win 4
Points for a draw / no result 2
Points for a tie 2
Points for a loss 0
Match length 50 overs

Haier President's Cup One-Day (Silver)

Teams:-

Group I -
Hyderabad Hawks
Pakistani International Airlines
United Bank
Quetta Bears

Group II -
Water & Power Development Authority (WAPDA)
Habib Bank
Abbottabad Falcons
Bahawalpur Stags
Sialkot Stallions

Group III -
Faisalabad Wolves
Pakistan TV
Sui Southern Gas Corporation
Multan Tigers
Lahore Eagles

Group IIV -
Top team from Group I
Top team from Group II
Top team from Group III

Number of teams 14 (5 in two groups and 4 in the first group)
Format : Single round robin in group stages, then top three teams qualify for a three team group. The top two teams between those three teams in Group IV qualify for the final. The top two teams (basically the finalists) are promoted to the Gold division.
Promotion places 2
Relegation places 0
Points for a win 4
Points for a draw / no result 2
Points for a tie 2
Points for a loss 0
Match length 50 overs

Btw, the regional teams have been renamed as:

1. Abbottabad Falcons - Abbottabad Region
2. Azad Jammu & Kashmir Jaguars - Azad Jammu & Kashmir Region
3. Bahawalpur Stags - Bahawalpur Region
4. Dera Murad Jamali Ibexes - Dera Murad Jamali Region
5. Faisalabad Wolves - Faisalabad Region
6. FATA Cheetahs - FATA Region
7. Hyderabad Hawks - Hyderabad Region
8. Islamabad Leopards - Islamabad Region
9. Karachi Dolphins - Karachi Blues
10. Karachi Zebras - Karachi Whites
11. Lahore Eagles - Lahore Blues
12. Lahore Lions - Lahore Whites
13. Larkana Bulls - Larkana Region
14. Multan Tigers - Multan Region
15. Peshawar Panthers - Peshawar Region
16. Quetta Bears - Quetta Region
17. Rawalpindi Rams - Rawalpindi Region
18. Sialkot Stallions - Sialkot Region

 

[Mark Baldwin]

The Quaid-e-Azam trophy is basically a first-class tournament. The list-a league is the Haier President's Cup. And just like the Quaid-e-Azam trophy, it is split between two divisions (Gold & Silver). The gold division has two groups. The silver division has three groups. The Twenty20 competition we had, is now defunct. Because of Pakistan Super League's inauguration.

Haier President's Cup One-Day (Gold)

Teams:-

Group I -
Karachi Dolphins
National Bank
Sui Gas
Peshawar Panthers
Zarai Taraqiati
Rawalpindi Rams

Group II -
Khan Research Labs
State Bank
Port Qasim Authority
Lahore Lions
Islamabad Leopards
Karachi Zebras

Number of teams 12 (6 in each group)
Format : Single round robin, semi finals & final
Promotion places 0
Relegation places 2 (1 from each group)
Points for a win 4
Points for a draw / no result 2
Points for a tie 2
Points for a loss 0
Match length 50 overs

Haier President's Cup One-Day (Silver)

Teams:-

Group I -
Hyderabad Hawks
Pakistani International Airlines
United Bank
Quetta Bears

Group II -
Water & Power Development Authority (WAPDA)
Habib Bank
Abbottabad Falcons
Bahawalpur Stags
Sialkot Stallions

Group III -
Faisalabad Wolves
Pakistan TV
Sui Southern Gas Corporation
Multan Tigers
Lahore Eagles

Group IIV -
Top team from Group I
Top team from Group II
Top team from Group III

Number of teams 14 (5 in two groups and 4 in the first group)
Format : Single round robin in group stages, then top three teams qualify for a three team group. The top two teams between those three teams in Group IV qualify for the final. The top two teams (basically the finalists) are promoted to the Gold division.
Promotion places 2
Relegation places 0
Points for a win 4
Points for a draw / no result 2
Points for a tie 2
Points for a loss 0
Match length 50 overs

Btw, the regional teams have been renamed as:

1. Abbottabad Falcons - Abbottabad Region
2. Azad Jammu & Kashmir Jaguars - Azad Jammu & Kashmir Region
3. Bahawalpur Stags - Bahawalpur Region
4. Dera Murad Jamali Ibexes - Dera Murad Jamali Region
5. Faisalabad Wolves - Faisalabad Region
6. FATA Cheetahs - FATA Region
7. Hyderabad Hawks - Hyderabad Region
8. Islamabad Leopards - Islamabad Region
9. Karachi Dolphins - Karachi Blues
10. Karachi Zebras - Karachi Whites
11. Lahore Eagles - Lahore Blues
12. Lahore Lions - Lahore Whites
13. Larkana Bulls - Larkana Region
14. Multan Tigers - Multan Region
15. Peshawar Panthers - Peshawar Region
16. Quetta Bears - Quetta Region
17. Rawalpindi Rams - Rawalpindi Region
18. Sialkot Stallions - Sialkot Region

This is fantastic. Thank you. Shame about the defunct Twenty20 competition. We might consider having our own Twenty20 made up competition in the game to run alongside this. Out of interest, is there a level below this or is it just school level or under 19?

 

[Mark Baldwin]

go to cricinfo.com select India from countries and wait for the page to load.then point your mouse on competitions a drop down list will appear.dang and you get it.

To be perfectly honest, I find the cricinfo information hard to get a grip of. I think I understand how the Ranji Trophy and Vijay Hazare Trophy works. I'm just not sure about the level under that. What level does the Karnataka Premier League work on? I want the player to start at a club and work up to playing in one of the top clubs and then possibly getting invited to play in the IPL.

 

[UK768]

Out of interest, is there a level below this or is it just school level or under 19?

I dunno know about that. Maybe, Under 19's the only tournament below this but I'm not to sure.

 

[Mark Baldwin]

I dunno know about that. Maybe, Under 19's the only tournament below this but I'm not to sure.

No worries. What you've given me is great. All I have to worry about now is getting the data for India and then at some point I would like to get data on
Bangladesh, South Africa ,West Indies, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe.

 

[UK768]

No worries. What you've given me is great. All I have to worry about now is getting the data for India and then at some point I would like to get data on
Bangladesh, South Africa ,West Indies, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe.

I believe that @swirler is Your go to man. He has great knowledge about Zimbabwean cricket.

 

[Till Valhalla]

Karnataka Premier League is a state level T20 competition.
Ranji Trophy-First class
Vijay Hazare-One Day
Syed Mushtaq Ali trophy-T20(not ipl)
Irani Cup-Winner of Ranji vs Rest of India(15 best players of other teams)
Deodhar Trophy-One day tournament between 5 teams divided according to zones(North Zone, South Zone, East Zone, West Zone and Central Zone)).

 

[Mark Baldwin]

Karnataka Premier League is a state level T20 competition.
Ranji Trophy-First class
Vijay Hazare-One Day
Syed Mushtaq Ali trophy-T20(not ipl)
Irani Cup-Winner of Ranji vs Rest of India(15 best players of other teams)
Deodhar Trophy-One day tournament between 5 teams divided according to zones(North Zone, South Zone, East Zone, West Zone and Central Zone)).

Thank you. I need to have a good think about how best to represent these in the game. I want the player to have a clear progression for them in the game.

 

[Mark Baldwin]

Karnataka Premier League is a state level T20 competition.
Ranji Trophy-First class
Vijay Hazare-One Day
Syed Mushtaq Ali trophy-T20(not ipl)
Irani Cup-Winner of Ranji vs Rest of India(15 best players of other teams)
Deodhar Trophy-One day tournament between 5 teams divided according to zones(North Zone, South Zone, East Zone, West Zone and Central Zone)).

Further to all this, is there another tier of cricket played with other clubs? All these competitions are comprised of the same 27 clubs. It would be great if we could add another tier of competitions below these, just to give the player some sense of furthering their career when they play.[DOUBLEPOST=1445440826][/DOUBLEPOST]

I believe that @swirler is Your go to man. He has great knowledge about Zimbabwean cricket.

Would love some info on Zimbabwean Cricket @swirler if you can spare some time.

 

[CerealKiller]

This is fantastic. Thank you. Shame about the defunct Twenty20 competition. We might consider having our own Twenty20 made up competition in the game to run alongside this. Out of interest, is there a level below this or is it just school level or under 19?

I believe below First-Class cricket there is Grade 2 cricket, the same Mohammad Aamir was allowed to play before his international ban expired.
Here is the points table from the last seasonThe Home of CricketArchive.
I hope it was helpful. If you have any problems understanding it, just ask me.

 

[Targaryen]

Further to all this, is there another tier of cricket played with other clubs? All these competitions are comprised of the same 27 clubs. It would be great if we could add another tier of competitions below these, just to give the player some sense of furthering their career when they play.[DOUBLEPOST=1445440826][/DOUBLEPOST]
Would love some info on Zimbabwean Cricket @swirler if you can spare some time.

Great to have you on forums. I can help you out with one of the tiers. Actually the above mentioned KPL is not a state based competitions as Vijay Hazare or Ranji etc...

KPL consist of teams playing for different cities of Karnataka State. Now players for Karnataka State Ranji Team are selected based on players performance in KPL.

Hope this helped you. Any questions regarding this can be clarified with me without any hesitations.