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  • Kane Richardson is the best of a bad bunch which is the main reason for his inclusion. While he is not first-team quality, he does offer a useful role as a death bowler. Him over AJ Tye any day.
  • I hope that Morgan does not reintroduce Root straightaway into the playing XI just on his reputation as a replacement for Malan. The latter has worked so hard to retain his place and has been extremely good that dropping him would be criminal. However Root has started bowling a lot more now and they could just sneak him in if Ali's form goes further astray and they need a finger spinner in the XI.
  • It is hard to not feel bad for Stoinis. He is a great bloke and for some reason gets hyped up due to how good he can 'potentially' be by people like Warne and gets played in a role he is completely unsuited for. In the end when he predictably fails, he gets criticized heavily. Why would you bat him at five after already admitting that he is a top order player? And no, the solution is not to push Smith and Maxi lower down the order for a Wade or Stoinis to bat in the top three.
  • In addition, when you have five front-line bowlers already with a weak number seven, you need to shore up your batting a lot more with an extra batsman or an all-rounder who is actually good in the middle order. It is criminal that Jono Wells has not got a chance till now after the killer season he had at five with the Strikers especially if Sams can get in after just one good season.
  • England's death bowling does not get enough credit. Jordan might be one of the five best death bowlers in the world currently, he has some insane control over his yorkers and cutters. So difficult to hit off him. Archer is another world class option and Curran is not bad either although he does sometimes tend to leak runs like the average bowler. It feels like something that England actually need is a world class opening bowler to complement Archer and/or Wood. Willey should have been in the squad for that at least, he can also score quickly if needed adding to his value alongside the obvious left arm angle.
 

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I definitely would want to have someone like Chris Jordan as one of my top death bowlers at present. He is just that good yet he isn't considered much. He is fairly under-rated as a bowler who could bat a bit. My top 5 death bowlers would definitely be ranked as follows.

  1. Jofra Archer (this guys is seriously good with his slower ball variations and his accurate yorkers at the death along with his express pace becomes a really useful death bowler.)
  2. Jasprit Bumrah (if I remember correctly teams actually banked on him to get some additional runs at the death somewhere around 2015 IPL but even that time his yorkers used to be very effective. He came to 2016 IPL with an additional weapon in him which was the slower ball yorker. Since then he never looked back. His unusual action makes him even more unplayable but since he is slightly too predictable at times I rank behind Archer.)
  3. Wahab Riaz (if we talk about T20 Cricket it is absolutely Criminal of not including his name in this list. He doesn't have those accurate yorkers yet he somehow effectively manages to use his slower ball. Although he is slightly unconventional kind of a death bowler but it is actually hard to score against his slower deliveries, and mind you he does have that quick bouncer and a pacy length ball to trouble the batsman as well when they start expecting every ball to be a slower one from him)
  4. Andrew Tye (he started making his mark as a death bowler very much during 2015-16 Big Bash league which saw him included in the T20I series against India at home. Although he did not deliver as per his reputation but manage to make a place in the Australian side for the 2016 WT20 and the IPL to follow. In his very first match in the IPL he took a hat-trick and followed it up with a good season in 2018 as he got the Purple Cap that year. He slower balls and cutters are actually the hard ones to hit.)
  5. Chris Jordan (he probably is a bowler who is very frustrating to watch if you are supporting the team he is bowling against at the death. Almost each of his ball is a slower delivery in such situations. He is definitely predictable but a very difficult bowler to hit. I mean he has got different speeds even for his slower delivery which makes him special)
  6. DJ Bravo till 2017 (he actually was a complete package to watch at the death and his consistency was a different level altogether. Since 2018 he hasn't delivered much which might be the case of age taking over him)
  7. Lasith Malinga (I guess his name is enough.:p)
 
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  • Kane Richardson is the best of a bad bunch which is the main reason for his inclusion. While he is not first-team quality, he does offer a useful role as a death bowler. Him over AJ Tye any day.
  • I hope that Morgan does not reintroduce Root straightaway into the playing XI just on his reputation as a replacement for Malan. The latter has worked so hard to retain his place and has been extremely good that dropping him would be criminal. However Root has started bowling a lot more now and they could just sneak him in if Ali's form goes further astray and they need a finger spinner in the XI.
  • It is hard to not feel bad for Stoinis. He is a great bloke and for some reason gets hyped up due to how good he can 'potentially' be by people like Warne and gets played in a role he is completely unsuited for. In the end when he predictably fails, he gets criticized heavily. Why would you bat him at five after already admitting that he is a top order player? And no, the solution is not to push Smith and Maxi lower down the order for a Wade or Stoinis to bat in the top three.
  • In addition, when you have five front-line bowlers already with a weak number seven, you need to shore up your batting a lot more with an extra batsman or an all-rounder who is actually good in the middle order. It is criminal that Jono Wells has not got a chance till now after the killer season he had at five with the Strikers especially if Sams can get in after just one good season.
  • England's death bowling does not get enough credit. Jordan might be one of the five best death bowlers in the world currently, he has some insane control over his yorkers and cutters. So difficult to hit off him. Archer is another world class option and Curran is not bad either although he does sometimes tend to leak runs like the average bowler. It feels like something that England actually need is a world class opening bowler to complement Archer and/or Wood. Willey should have been in the squad for that at least, he can also score quickly if needed adding to his value alongside the obvious left arm angle.

Despite the season that he had, Sams looks like a less prominent version of James Faulkner, if that word fits the context. He struggled heavily with the bat in the BBL even though he picked up 25 wickets. Don't think he warrants the place in the Aussie XI just yet unless he improves his batting. Would be hard to push Richardson out but if Sams gets his form together, Australia can shore up their lower order depth which it lacks with Agar at 7. Agar is more of a bowling allrounder and looks more like a #8.

I definitely agree that Jono Wells does not get as much hype as Sams. He played some excellent cameos for the Strikers in the BBL, if anything he is the perfect candidate to bat at 5 rather than Stoinis. He can add quick runs and rotates the strike quite well. I like Carey, think he's a good leadership option while he did score well in WC19, he has been out of form of late and Wade should be pushing him for a spot at #6.

Stoinis on the other hand has been mismanaged by Langer and his management. You can't force a player to play outside his comfort zone and expect him to perform while he already performs well at the top of the order. He doesn't look like the guy who'll smash it from ball one, rather takes his time and opts to score more runs while going at a decent SR.

As for the England side, I struggle to understand why Willey is not in the XI. He's an ideal powerplay bowler, and I believe he deserves the chance to bat at #6/7. He seemed in very good nick during the Ireland season with the bat, plus he's played some good knocks in the T20 blast at the top of the order. Don't think its a good idea to play Banton at 4 or somewhere in the middle order, it does no good to compliment his potential.
 

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Boy it seemed as if the Pakistan or Bangladesh team was playing with yellow jerseys on last night!! I cannot think of another team that would have allowed that to happen to themselves. Simply put, there's no excuse for this stuff.

I will never understand why Australia repeatedly play Stoinis where they do? Open with him or do away with him although I don't blame him for last night. I feel their batting line up has too many people that bat similarly. I think Maxwell needs to bat 5/6. He is not a very stable option at 4 and he has such spunk about him that he is best suited with a license in the last 5/6. I think Carey is a class act. All Australia really need is a number 4 and I don't know what Labuschagne could do but it would be madness not to give him a go? I think he has so much class, he could easily develop or improve even if he's not ready at the moment.
 

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I definitely would want to have someone like Chris Jordan as one of my top death bowlers at present. He is just that good yet he isn't considered much. He is fairly under-rated as a bowler who could bat a bit. My top 5 death bowlers would definitely be ranked as follows.

  1. Jofra Archer (this guys is seriously good with his slower ball variations and his accurate yorkers at the death along with his express pace becomes a really useful death bowler.)
  2. Jasprit Bumrah (if I remember correctly teams actually banked on him to get some additional runs at the death somewhere around 2015 IPL but even that time his yorkers used to be very effective. He came to 2016 IPL with an additional weapon in him which was the slower ball yorker. Since then he never looked back. His unusual action makes him even more unplayable but since he is slightly too predictable at times I rank behind Archer.)
  3. Wahab Riaz (if we talk about T20 Cricket it is absolutely Criminal of not including his name in this list. He doesn't have those accurate yorkers yet he somehow effectively manages to use his slower ball. Although he is slightly unconventional kind of a death bowler but it is actually hard to score against his slower deliveries, and mind you he does have that quick bouncer and a pacy length ball to trouble the batsman as well when they start expecting every ball to be a slower one from him)
  4. Andrew Tye (he started making his mark as a death bowler very much during 2015-16 Big Bash league which saw him included in the T20I series against India at home. Although he did not deliver as per his reputation but manage to make a place in the Australian side for the 2016 WT20 and the IPL to follow. In his very first match in the IPL he took a hat-trick and followed it up with a good season in 2018 as he got the Purple Cap that year. He slower balls and cutters are actually the hard ones to hit.)
  5. Chris Jordan (he probably is a bowler who is very frustrating to watch if you are supporting the team he is bowling against at the death. Almost each of his ball is a slower delivery in such situations. He is definitely predictable but a very difficult bowler to hit. I mean he has got different speeds even for his slower delivery which makes him special)
  6. DJ Bravo till 2017 (he actually was a complete package to watch at the death and his consistency was a different level altogether. Since 2018 he hasn't delivered much which might be the case of age taking over him)
  7. Lasith Malinga (I guess his name is enough.:p)
Before his injury, Bhuvi would’ve easily made this list, but he has gone cold ever since then.
 

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Before his injury, Bhuvi would’ve easily made this list, but he has gone cold ever since then.
He is a class act. His knuckle ball was something really good to see. It felt like the ball was floating around nicely and suddenly it pitches and rolls towards the batsman like a spinning top. It looked so good to watch. Unfortunately injuries and mismanagement has ruined him.
 

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Got to love how the management shafts Maxwell down to six like he is a reckless batsman who only throws his wicket away when all three of his hundreds have come when he has come to the crease in the powerplay. :rolleyes
 

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Umair: "I don't understand our obsession with 5 bowlers when we can use Maxi & another AR to bowl 4 overs. An extra batsman like Wade will fix a lot of issues in this side."
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Ouch that's nasty for Morgan. Looked very awful live. How does the man barely flinch?!
 
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That is soooooooo painful when it hits the fingers like that!
 
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Good to see Morgan back on the field. Hopefully he can bat as normal.
 

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