Graeme Smith or Virender Sehwag?

Who is the better Opening Batsman?

  • Graeme Smith

    Votes: 32 64.0%
  • Virender Sehwag

    Votes: 18 36.0%

  • Total voters
    50
It is splitting hairs, but Sehwag is best described as a great player of limited impact. For all 10 of Sehwag's 150+ scores, India have only won one Test and the average first innings score in these games is 493. People asked what was the point of Brian Lara's 400 and so too, where is the meaning in big scores if they never win you anything?

India don't get the lion's share of sporting pitches, but they still don't draw two thirds of their games, which is what happens for more than two thirds of the matches when Sehwag gets a hundred. He has scored 48% of his runs in the 22 matches drawn and only 27% of his runs in the 20 matches won.

When India do win a Test, they can sometimes count on Sehwag. He is certainly not the worst player in the world and in the midst of a session, his entertainment value certainly seems more important than the match result. However, for a win, India have looked largely to Tendulkar and Dravid, but have also been able to count on Laxman and Ganguly more.
Comparisons to Lara's 400 are irrelevant because in Sehwag's biggest innings--the team is usually looking to push on for runs.

And although Sehwag is a part-time bowler, you cannot blame him for scoring runs in drawn matches. It is the job of bowlers to get wickets and if they cannot do that, then Sehwag's innings cannot be blamed. Besides, he scores runs about 50-60% faster than anyone else on the team, so he really isn't doing any harm by scoring big knocks (with regards to eating up overs and such).
 
It is splitting hairs, but Sehwag is best described as a great player of limited impact. For all 10 of Sehwag's 150+ scores, India have only won one Test and the average first innings score in these games is 493. People asked what was the point of Brian Lara's 400 and so too, where is the meaning in big scores if they never win you anything?

India don't get the lion's share of sporting pitches, but they still don't draw two thirds of their games, which is what happens for more than two thirds of the matches when Sehwag gets a hundred. He has scored 48% of his runs in the 22 matches drawn and only 27% of his runs in the 20 matches won.

When India do win a Test, they can sometimes count on Sehwag. He is certainly not the worst player in the world and in the midst of a session, his entertainment value certainly seems more important than the match result. However, for a win, India have looked largely to Tendulkar and Dravid, but have also been able to count on Laxman and Ganguly more.

I don`t think you can blame Sehwag one bit for that.It is not as if he scores his big hundreds,double and triples at a SR of 60 whereas Brian Lara`s 400 was scored at quite a slow pace which took a lot of time out of the match.
He scores at close to a SR of 100 or even quicker in case of his triple hundred at Chennai. What that in fact does is give the bowler more time to capture those 20 wickets to win a test match.
You`ll see that if anyone can buy India some extra time to force a result on those dead tracks , it is Sehwag with his ultra-fast innings rather than the other batsmen in the sid who are far more conventional and score at a slower pace.
The others may score runs but may not be scoring them at a quick enough rate to help the team force a result on dead tracks.

What I just described was evident in the only test of all his 150+ scores that India won, at Multan where he scored a quick 300 which gave us enough time to bowl Pakistan out twice.

His hundred at Trent Bridge in 2002 came on a juicy first day track which had quite a lot for the bowlers under overcast conditions. I helped us post a decent score and eventually draw the game.

Yet another of his hundreds which ended up as a draw was the 180 against the West Indies in St.Lucia 2006. Again, it was a very quick innings and almost got us a victory inspite of the whole of Day 4 being washed out.

His hundred at Adelaide earlier this year was crucial in ensuring that we did not lose the test match. We could well have gone on to lose that one had it not been for Sehwag`s 150+ score in the second innings.Look at what the others scored in that inning.

What this proves is that the stats as always do not tell the whole story in this case. The stats do point out that Sehwag`s biggest scores may have come on flat tracks but do not tell that he is India`s best chance to force a result on flat tracks.

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For me , Sehwag is in fact the most vital cog of our test batting lineup. If he does manage to give us a decent start, the fab four usually score big as we saw at Perth and Adelaide.
Even his 28 in the first inning at Perth and the 50 in the second innings played a vital role in getting us the win.
 
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I don`t think you can blame Sehwag one bit for that.It is not as if he scores his big hundreds,double and triples at a SR of 60 whereas Brian Lara`s 400 was scored at quite a slow pace which took a lot of time out of the match.
He scores at close to a SR of 100 or even quicker in case of his triple hundred at Chennai. What that in fact does is give the bowler more time to capture those 20 wickets to win a test match.
You`ll see that if anyone can buy India some extra time to force a result on those dead tracks , it is Sehwag with his ultra-fast innings rather than the other batsmen in the sid who are far more conventional and score at a slower pace.

He puts you guys in trouble by getting out trying to get off to flying starts more often then he hits quick fire hundreds to help you win matches.
 
Sehwag scored a fine 100 in Adelaide earlier this year when the team needed him to stand up. He reached his 100 when the teams total was only on 120, which is quite amazing.
 
He puts you guys in trouble by getting out trying to get off to flying starts more often then he hits quick fire hundreds to help you win matches.
He obviously does not get out trying to get off to flying starts in Test cricket, because he would not be averaging around the 50-mark in that case.
 
Can anyone tell me in all how many Internation players are there (just trying to guess the threads coming out:p)

and yeah as voted Sehwag 300 X 3**** :happy:happy
 
This isn't even a close one.

Smith.
Somewhat baseless. Let's just do a little bit of comparing between the two:

Runs
Sehwag: 4813 @ 51.75 (57 matches)
Smith: 5554 @ 48.71 (68 matches)

Strike Rate
Sehwag: 76.49
Smith: 61.14

Centuries
Sehwag: 14
Smith: 15

Conversion Rate (50s to 100s)
Sehwag: 52%
Smith: 41%

Triple Centuries
Sehwag: 2
Smith: 0

Double Centuries
Sehwag: 4 (3 against Pakistan, 1 against South Africa)
Smith: 4 (2 against Bangladesh, 2 against England)

150+ Innings
Sehwag: 10 (that's 71% of his centuries)
Smith: 5 (that's 33% of his centuries)

You know, as much as you may hate Sehwag and his style, he is a better Test batsman than any of you give him credit for. He's got the most important quality of a good Test batsman: conversion rate. Test cricket isn't about scoring 50s, it's about getting stuck in and making the bowlers pay.
 
i agree after looking at those stats, i got to say sehwag is better than graeme smith

this is the most important thing Sehwag: 4 (3 against Pakistan, 1 against South Africa)
Smith: 4 (2 against Bangladesh, 2 against England)

sehwag scored against 2 great teams and smith scored against bangaldesh and england

i have to say that England is preety tough, but sehwags has Pakistan and South Africa
 
One must note (as has been noted earlier) that his doubles came on flat tracks. But he has played some scintillating innings on less than helpful pitches. The 195 against Australia at the MCG and the 105 on debut against South Africa come to mind.
 
Sehwag's centuries have never won us the game though, usually have ended in ties, whereas Smith's centuries have a huge impact on Saffers' victories.
 
This thread can go on forever, All I can say is, Sehwag isn't what he was few years ago, and Graeme Smith ATM is better.
 

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