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Karan Johar has not had access to cricketers until Anushka Sharma married Kohli. And I am not blaming Anushka here (I've many times posted here in PC that I find it totally wrong and offensive when people target Anushka for Virat's failures). Its just that I found it funny that Virat was talking about this controversy and saying things like "its unacceptable and all" when he LIKELY was instrumental (capitalizing 'likely' as its the operative word) in giving Karan Johar the access to these cricketers.

Not directly. It can be implicit. For e.g. when you treat/respect women like the way Hardik Pandya does, you feel entitled over them. Imagine this sample scenario - a guy who gets inspired by Pandya tomorrow and wants to boast to his parents that "he slept with XYZ woman". And imagine he tries to get into such a situation with a woman and he is not able to achieve it because the woman refuses. What do you think is going to happen with his male ego? Fill in the blanks.....

Come on Sai!

Karan Johar is a huge film maker. He's made movies with PZ and she's the owner of a franchise. SRK is his absolute buddy and he's a franchise owner as well. KL Rahul is actually playing for a franchise PZ owns. The connections are endless. Why drag Kohli's wife into this? I just find it rich off Kohli to impart any moral science lessons. in all likelihood, the BCCI have asked him to make this statement.

On your second point- I vehemently and strongly condemn your claim. Nowhere in that interview has Pandya said that when he doesn't have his way, he resorts to such things. The psychopaths who do such heinous crimes are just inhuman. Pandya was more boasting and promoting a casanova image, not a rapists. They're not the same by a long shot.
 

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And you are contradicting yourself massively by saying that it's not about political correctness or vanilla. You are part of the audience who wants to hear certain things. Someone comes along who's edgy and brash and it moves the coffers within you. Embrace different people and how they are my friend. I'm not judging you for liking people who can put on a different image in front of the camera. I get it. You like politically correct people and there's nothing wrong in liking such guys or being that way. Just don't turn around and look down on people who aren't like you or don't agree with you.

You, yourself are saying that KL Rahul was treated harshly. So basically, being on the same couch as a crass Pandya equals suspension but talking about testicles being in someone's mouth on a cricket field by a two decade experienced broadcaster is okay, just because he trims the captain's beard?

Well first you do not know me, (not the boosting Indian one).
A) I am not a politically correct person. I support things that are right as I can judge what is right vs what is wrong.
B) I am not a blind follower of a trend, religion, political party, technology, sport. I see and feel what I like whether or not its correct or not.
C) I do not think I have mentioned that KL Rahul was correct in any way. I even mentioned that this break will give him some introspect on what his friend group needs to be. But comparing to Hardik, he can go away with 2 match ban whereas Hardik needs to learn a lesson that with Money and Fame comes great responsibility. There is one thing being a casanova or playboy and sleeping with x amount of women and there is a big difference about boosting about it on NATIONAL TV in a SOCIAL MEDIA generation. I dont care if it gets broadcasted only at a particular channel at a particular time. SOCIAL MEDIA is a huge word and in 15 miinutes that episode will be available everywhere. Just an example that the episode was removed but still is available through wrong ways every where.
D) We criticize Actors, Actresses, Politicians why? Because they have some responsibilities, so does CRICKETERS, FOOTBALLERS, TENNIS and all other sport players.
E) IT IS DIFFERENT when your friends know about what you do vs when you openly boosting about it for being COOL. If you boosted for being cool, now get the reaction and punishment that comes along with it for being FOOL.
F) I do not like people who put different image and are different in real life. WHAT DO I CARE about their personal life? I ONLY CARE when they themselves bring this up and act stupid or in this case COOL.
G) Whether its a girl or boy, there is nothing COOL about sleeping with multiple people and boosting about it. WHAT IS COOL is do the same thing but DO NOT BOOST.
 

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Well first you do not know me, (not the boosting Indian one).
A) I am not a politically correct person. I support things that are right as I can judge what is right vs what is wrong.
B) I am not a blind follower of a trend, religion, political party, technology, sport. I see and feel what I like whether or not its correct or not.
C) I do not think I have mentioned that KL Rahul was correct in any way. I even mentioned that this break will give him some introspect on what his friend group needs to be. But comparing to Hardik, he can go away with 2 match ban whereas Hardik needs to learn a lesson that with Money and Fame comes great responsibility. There is one thing being a casanova or FireAndBlood and sleeping with x amount of women and there is a big difference about boosting about it on NATIONAL TV in a SOCIAL MEDIA generation. I dont care if it gets broadcasted only at a particular channel at a particular time. SOCIAL MEDIA is a huge word and in 15 miinutes that episode will be available everywhere. Just an example that the episode was removed but still is available through wrong ways every where.
D) We criticize Actors, Actresses, Politicians why? Because they have some responsibilities, so does CRICKETERS, FOOTBALLERS, TENNIS and all other sport players.
E) IT IS DIFFERENT when your friends know about what you do vs when you openly boosting about it for being COOL. If you boosted for being cool, now get the reaction and punishment that comes along with it for being FOOL.
F) I do not like people who put different image and are different in real life. WHAT DO I CARE about their personal life? I ONLY CARE when they themselves bring this up and act stupid or in this case COOL.
G) Whether its a girl or boy, there is nothing COOL about sleeping with multiple people and boosting about it. WHAT IS COOL is do the same thing but DO NOT BOOST.

Your post is full of contradiction. I'll leave it here.[DOUBLEPOST=1547234414][/DOUBLEPOST]https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-ne...dik-pandya-kl-rahul-suspended-pending-inquiry

Oh great!
 

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I'd love to know the exact reason for the suspension of Rahul and the exemption of Shastri. This cricket board is a bloody joke!
 

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I understand what Hardik did but what KL Rahul did that he is suspended? Did he also say anything like Hardik?
 

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Karan Johar has not had access to cricketers until Anushka Sharma married Kohli. And I am not blaming Anushka here (I've many times posted here in PC that I find it totally wrong and offensive when people target Anushka for Virat's failures). Its just that I found it funny that Virat was talking about this controversy and saying things like "its unacceptable and all" when he LIKELY was instrumental (capitalizing 'likely' as its the operative word) in giving Karan Johar the access to these cricketers.
It's funny that people pull Virat for every bad thing that's happening in cricket. Some guy said something on field, blame Kohli. Some guy goes on talk show, blame Kohli. And now poor Anushka is being dragged down. I know you said 'likely' but these are the ways rumors start spreading. It's all about individuals. It was Pandya and Rahul who decided and went to the talk show. Even as per you, if Kohli indeed was 'likely' instrumental, did Kohli tell them to talk the way they did ? As I said, it all comes down to individual and how they behave. In before you say that Kohli's aggression is rubbing them off to do these stuff, I can show you many characteristics of Kohli which is not rubbing on others. It's about an individual and what he decides to do and what he decides to take on. There is nothing wrong if they go to the talk show unless they know to behave.

I agree that Kohli is a bad captain and all those stuff, but blaming him for everything makes me really sick.



I understand what Hardik did but what KL Rahul did that he is suspended? Did he also say anything like Hardik?
I read somewhere that they did not have permission from cricket board to go to the talk show. maybe because of that ? I am not sure though.
 

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I understand what Hardik did but what KL Rahul did that he is suspended? Did he also say anything like Hardik?

He did not say anything I guess was the problem. But either way, I just think both of them shouldn’t be punished this harshly. Comments Harbhajan made were also uncalled for. Hardik has his own views. Whatever girls he dates is up to him. Clearly those girls know what they are getting into. If he had misbehaved with a girl, then we would have heard it somehow since why would she stay quiet. As a girl myself, I just don’t see much negativity towards the matter.
 

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This can be the best squad we can take in the WC

Virat Kohli :bat::c:
Rohit Sharma :bat:
Shikhar Dhawan :bat:
Ambati Rayudu :bat:
MS Dhoni :wk:
Dinesh Karthik :wkb:
Kedar Jadhav :arwk:
Hardik Pandya :ar:
Ravindra Jadeja :ar:
Yuzvendra Chahal :bwl:
Kuldeep Yadav :bwl:
Bhuvneshwar Kumar :bwl:
Jasprit Bumrah :bwl:
Mohammed Shami :bwl:
Khaleel Ahmed / Umesh Yadav :bwl: (a tough choice this for me atleast)

But for me Khaleel:up: Umesh:down:
 

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This can be the best squad we can take in the WC

Virat Kohli :bat::c:
Rohit Sharma :bat:
Shikhar Dhawan :bat:
KL Rahul :bat:
Ambati Rayudu :bat:
MS Dhoni :wk:
Dinesh Karthik Rishabh Pant :wkb:
Kedar Jadhav :arwk:
Hardik Pandya :ar:
Ravindra Jadeja :ar:
Yuzvendra Chahal :bwl:
Kuldeep Yadav :bwl:
Bhuvneshwar Kumar :bwl:
Jasprit Bumrah :bwl:
Mohammed Shami :bwl:
Khaleel Ahmed :bwl: (a tough choice this for me atleast)

But for me Khaleel:up: Umesh:down:

The batting looks pretty lean there. Anyways we normally go with 16 or 17 member squads for tournaments like WC. So I'd fit in an extra batsman in there, and take KL Rahul. If Pandya can be part of the WC, Rahul should be included too. Also, I am leaning towards Rishabh Pant but I actually feel he should go to the WC in place of Dinesh Karthik, who seems to not be grabbing his opportunities at all. Time is running out for Karthik and if he has further underwhelming games in the remainder of the current Australia series, he should not go for the WC. I think it's better to play Pant even though he has played only few ODI's in his career.

My final squad will look more like this if Karthik continues to flounder (see above in quoted post)
 

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The batting looks pretty lean there. Anyways we normally go with 16 or 17 member squads for tournaments like WC. So I'd fit in an extra batsman in there, and take KL Rahul. If Pandya can be part of the WC, Rahul should be included too. Also, I am leaning towards Rishabh Pant but I actually feel he should go to the WC in place of Dinesh Karthik, who seems to not be grabbing his opportunities at all. Time is running out for Karthik and if he has further underwhelming games in the remainder of the current Australia series, he should not go for the WC. I think it's better to play Pant even though he has played only few ODI's in his career.

My final squad will look more like this if Karthik continues to flounder (see above in quoted post)

The squad mentioned was not taking into account the strength alone but it was certainly where the selectors are heading to and you aren't allowed to take more than 15 members for a WC. Ideally I would've wanted Rahane as well considering the way he was improving in ODIs but it was unfair from the selectors to drop him even when he was performing well. Seeing KL Rahul's form and the way he got dropped mid-series in Australia I don't think he would get selected and if he does it would be a good sign for him. In no way I see Pandya controversy going till WC so he is a definite choice
 

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I don't agree with whatever crap Pandya spoke especially the ones regarding women, I come from a kinda good background which has taught me to respect them. Guy spoke his mind, put across his views which were disgusting but seriously who cares? I don't know the people who'd follow these guys blindly, pretty sure the show has age limit along with a disclaimer so it should keep the kids out of it although we all know how much of that "age limit" thing is followed on the Internet. It's like saying an actor can't play a negative role just so he has a strong fan base who'd follow him. What's the use of banning them/suspending them would it make them change their lifestyle or their nature? They've anyway lost a lot of respect and dignity which is more important.
 

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