India's Tour of South Africa Dec 21 - Jan 22

[SaiSrini]

We don't want idiots like Jarvo 69 run on the field in these situations.

That doesn't mean you close doors for all audiences. My point was - Omicron is mild for the vaccinated and previously infected. The governments worldwide have been keeping this info at bay from the general public to instill some extra fear which could hopefully convince some of the anti-vaxxers to take the plunge, thereby increasing vaccination rates worldwide.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Just had a look to the squads of both teams and it seems like South Africa a pretty thin on their batting. Seems like they are pretty much reliant on Elgar, van der Dussen & QDK. There are exciting prospects like Kyle Verreynne & Keegan Petersen, but they haven't quite delivered in their limited opportunities. And to throw them against the likes of Bumrah, Shami, Ashwin, etc. is going to make it incredibly tough for them. This series is going to be an ideal time for Markram to switch against a worthy opposition as he hasn't quite delivered against a stronger side in his career barring Australia which was almost 4 years ago!

Even though India has a very good bowling attack they are no competition to the likes of Rabada, Ngidi, Olivier and Mulder who are going to tear apart the Indian batting line-up provided a little bit of help from the surface. I was quite surprised when I came to know about the fact that Duanne Olivier have got over 500 wickets in First-Class Cricket. I would say the Proteas still needs to use him sparingly and give him a role similar to that of Colin de Grandhomme. India were under the pump if they had to face Anrich Nortje. South Africa's bowling attack almost nullifies their weak batting and infact gives them a chance over the Indian team.

India would need about 320 runs to compete. For the surfaces, I don't think they would be as difficult to score as they were in 2018 series. India's middle order has to be a little more stable as far as their performances are concerned.

Also I am trying to look at South Africa's probable playing XI from my POV,

Aiden Markram
Dean Elgara
Keegan Petersen
Rassie van der Dussen
Temba Bavuma
Quinton de Kock
Wiaan Mulder
Keshav Maharaj
Duanne Olivier
Kagiso Rabada
Lungi Ngidi

Perhaps Verreynne can be Petersen's replacement?

 

[ShamiLoverGlipGlops]

Just had a look to the squads of both teams and it seems like South Africa a pretty thin on their batting. Seems like they are pretty much reliant on Elgar, van der Dussen & QDK. There are exciting prospects like Kyle Verreynne & Keegan Petersen, but they haven't quite delivered in their limited opportunities. And to throw them against the likes of Bumrah, Shami, Ashwin, etc. is going to make it incredibly tough for them. This series is going to be an ideal time for Markram to switch against a worthy opposition as he hasn't quite delivered against a stronger side in his career barring Australia which was almost 4 years ago!

Even though India has a very good bowling attack they are no competition to the likes of Rabada, Ngidi, Olivier and Mulder who are going to tear apart the Indian batting line-up provided a little bit of help from the surface. I was quite surprised when I came to know about the fact that Duanne Olivier have got over 500 wickets in First-Class Cricket. I would say the Proteas still needs to use him sparingly and give him a role similar to that of Colin de Grandhomme. India were under the pump if they had to face Anrich Nortje. South Africa's bowling attack almost nullifies their weak batting and infact gives them a chance over the Indian team.

India would need about 320 runs to compete. For the surfaces, I don't think they would be as difficult to score as they were in 2018 series. India's middle order has to be a little more stable as far as their performances are concerned.

Also I am trying to look at South Africa's probable playing XI from my POV,

Aiden Markram
Dean Elgara
Keegan Petersen
Rassie van der Dussen
Temba Bavuma
Quinton de Kock
Wiaan Mulder
Keshav Maharaj
Duanne Olivier
Kagiso Rabada
Lungi Ngidi

Perhaps Verreynne can be Petersen's replacement?

Also QDK is playing only the first test.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Also QDK is playing only the first test.

If that is the case the Kyle Verreynne has to play the next 2 games.

 

[Bevab]

Just had a look to the squads of both teams and it seems like South Africa a pretty thin on their batting. Seems like they are pretty much reliant on Elgar, van der Dussen & QDK. There are exciting prospects like Kyle Verreynne & Keegan Petersen, but they haven't quite delivered in their limited opportunities. And to throw them against the likes of Bumrah, Shami, Ashwin, etc. is going to make it incredibly tough for them. This series is going to be an ideal time for Markram to switch against a worthy opposition as he hasn't quite delivered against a stronger side in his career barring Australia which was almost 4 years ago!

Even though India has a very good bowling attack they are no competition to the likes of Rabada, Ngidi, Olivier and Mulder who are going to tear apart the Indian batting line-up provided a little bit of help from the surface. I was quite surprised when I came to know about the fact that Duanne Olivier have got over 500 wickets in First-Class Cricket. I would say the Proteas still needs to use him sparingly and give him a role similar to that of Colin de Grandhomme. India were under the pump if they had to face Anrich Nortje. South Africa's bowling attack almost nullifies their weak batting and infact gives them a chance over the Indian team.

India would need about 320 runs to compete. For the surfaces, I don't think they would be as difficult to score as they were in 2018 series. India's middle order has to be a little more stable as far as their performances are concerned.

Also I am trying to look at South Africa's probable playing XI from my POV,

Aiden Markram
Dean Elgara
Keegan Petersen
Rassie van der Dussen
Temba Bavuma
Quinton de Kock
Wiaan Mulder
Keshav Maharaj
Duanne Olivier
Kagiso Rabada
Lungi Ngidi

Perhaps Verreynne can be Petersen's replacement?

Verreynne is a middle order batsman though. If anything he should be replacing Bavuma but the latter has.. surprisingly decent numbers in his most recent outing. Would be harsh to axe him now. Petersen needs more games too. Verreynne will be playing the second test in any case in place of QdK.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Verreynne is a middle order batsman though. If anything he should be replacing Bavuma but the latter has.. surprisingly decent numbers in his most recent outing. Would be harsh to axe him now.

He was performing well during 2016-18 averaging close to 38, now that is a decent average for a no.5. Those pitches under Gibson era perhaps played a part to his downfall. Other issues were caused with his inconsistency and lack of good defence.

I did not watch the Pakistan series but his stats looked impressive. So he needs more chances too. Perhaps this should be Bavuma's last run.

 

[ShamiLoverGlipGlops]

Please pick Siraj please! He has the same x-factor like Bumrah and having 2 deadly bowlers with Shami is a dream! No ISHANT please!

Mayank
Rahul
Puji
Kohli
Rahane
Pant
Ashwin
Yadav/Thakur
Shami
Bumrah
Siraj

4 seamers, 1 spinner and the batting looks solid. If Rahane fails, swap him for Vihari who deserves a place in the XI above Iyer. Excited to see how we do and hope we come out victorious. If we do the only place that would be left to be conquered is New Zealand.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

If we do the only place that would be left to be conquered is New Zealand.

Rahane, Pujara, Rohit and perhaps even Kohli might not be part of the team on our next NZ tour that is I guess in 2024.

 

[asprin]

If we do the only place that would be left to be conquered is New Zealand.

Errm.... the recent England series is still on the line and given that we don't start well, the final Test might well make it 2-2

Please pick Siraj please! He has the same x-factor like Bumrah and having 2 deadly bowlers with Shami is a dream! No ISHANT please!

I concur. As much as I loved Ishant 2.0, he felt very ineffective in his last few Tests. Not saying it's the end of the road for him, but perhaps he needs to come back rejuvenated. A little bit of pace wouldn't hurt on SA pitches - Siraj isn't a tearaway but definitely quicker than Ishant

 

[ShamiLoverGlipGlops]

Rahane, Pujara, Rohit and perhaps even Kohli might not be part of the team on our next NZ tour that is I guess in 2024.

That gives us a sureshot victory.. lol just kidding. 2024 is only 2 years away. Kohli Rohit will be 35 36 so not bad. I do not think either will retire.

Errm.... the recent England series is still on the line and given that we don't start well, the final Test might well make it 2-2


I concur. As much as I loved Ishant 2.0, he felt very ineffective in his last few Tests. Not saying it's the end of the road for him, but perhaps he needs to come back rejuvenated. A little bit of pace wouldn't hurt on SA pitches - Siraj isn't a tearaway but definitely quicker than Ishant

I completely forgot that England series is still on the line but I think its safe to say that currently we hold the title .

 

[asprin]

Playing XI makes sense. But we have a debutant in the opposition. That's ominous.

 

[RUDI]

Playing XI makes sense. But we have a debutant in the opposition. That's ominous.

Yeah, not sure why the exclusion of Olivier. Let's see what young Jansen has in store.

Would like to see our bowlers making the batsman play of the back-foot ...

How poor was that review of the shoulder of Rahul?

 

[Bigby Wolf]

Nice start by Kings XI openers.

 

[AliB]

Nice start by Kings XI openers.

former*

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Playing XI makes sense. But we have a debutant in the opposition. That's ominous.

India isn't Pakistan who would always have new players performing against them. (Eg- Zak Crawley, Somerville, Olivier, etc.) Also the ones who perform well on their debut against India are genuinely good players. (Cook, Williamson, Jamieson, etc.) There's no shame being outclassed by genuinely good players.