Stephen Fleming as a captain and batsman

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One of the greatest captain of all time my most favourite after Steve Waugh.Was a good batsman too.Made good contribution to bring back NZL cricket in top form.
 
Frank Worrell was a better captain than Waugh and Fleming. Fleming's batting was pretty over-rated as well I think. He was an ok batsman, nothing more than an average Test player, as his average indicates. Heck of alot of talent, but didn't capitalise on it by converting 50's to 100's.
 
Frank Worrell was a better captain than Waugh and Fleming. Fleming's batting was pretty over-rated as well I think. He was an ok batsman, nothing more than an average Test player, as his average indicates. Heck of alot of talent, but didn't capitalise on it by converting 50's to 100's.

Have you watched Fleming play by any chance over a long period?

Fleming-Astle-Mcmillan were once the most dependable of Kiwis if they are to win a game. And Fleming's capataincy was my 'The Most Favorite' one. Few years before, my first favorite capatain was Fleming.. Second - Vaughan and Third - Smith! But it's changed ofcourse with time. Dhoni's captaincy is what i have started liking over Smith's one.

He was indeed a captain of two semifinalists in WC right? If so, thats not a small thing. And I still remember, in 2003 Wcup, Nz Vs Sa.. Fleming's heroic knock saved Kiwis through D/L method rules(after 34 overs i believe) where the target was around 339 i guess. You know that in those periods, target of above 300 is a huge thing.

Fleming has indeed played a crucial role in Kiwis cricket, but unfortunately they had no luck to turn out as champs. And, Fleming in test level, though he might have less average which Dan was speaking about( I don't know), he is one of the toughest batsmen to get out. Once he settles down, thats it.. he would get firmly rooted like a fevi-stick :p I still remember the boring opening partnership on Day 1 Vs SL on lankan soil itself with RR of not even 2RPO. They were some 150-170 for no loss after batting the full Day1. (i am not sure though about the exact total)Indeed the most boring innings I have ever watched! :rolleyes:

I was the big fan of Kiwis which had Fleming-Astle-Mcmillan-Parore-Bond-Vettori. They always had more potentials than what the statistics are showing now under Fleming's captaincy!:)
 
Fleming is one of best captain :) he was unlucky he dont have that class lineups like Waugh or Punter to win games most of the times.

For me

Waugh
Punter/Fleming
Smith
 
Fleming is a legend! Best captain i've ever seen in action easily. He's a great guy! His batting I feel is actually UNDER rated. He scored some brilliant double centuries against South Africa and Sri Lanka who both had world class bowling attacks. A big reason for his bad conversion rate was the team collapsing around him. He was still a great player.
 
interesting thing about fleming, just check out his fielding stats. 171 catches in 111 matches. that's mega impressive. I like to see a captain solid in the field, leads by example. (that's the second best ever dismissals per innings ratio for guys with over 100 catches btw)
 
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