The VB Series 2006

[barmyarmy]

Maybe it's a cultural thing in Australia but in Britain, as Andrew says, the term 'paki' is considered deeply racist and can now earn you a jail sentence as a result of the Hate Crimes Bill.

 

[irottev]

This whole McGrath isn't performing thing is starting to really **** me off. Fine, take him out of the side. And lose the world cup, lose the ashes. Who cares if McGrath only gets 1 wicket per game, he creates pressure for Lee and bowls 1/5 the overs for only 30 odd runs.

 

[aussie1st]

I agree irottev, without McGrath, Aus concede 300 easy. Its not a case of he isn't performing, its more he isn't taking wickets. Lets wait to the test matches before saying he is over the hill. If he can't take wickets in test matches then its a worry unless wickets are coming from the other end.
But for ODIs McGrath can keep conceding 30 runs in his 10 overs and I'll be happy. The same happens to Vettori and Murali.

 

[tsyrmas]

Maybe it's a cultural thing in Australia but in Britain, as Andrew says, the term 'paki' is considered deeply racist and can now earn you a jail sentence as a result of the Hate Crimes Bill.

but it doesn't actually come under the term of rascism. rasims is generlising a certain type of people through culture or skin colour. it may be offensive, and please don;t get me wrong, i dnt think it should continue, but it isn't technically rascist. am i going to get a life ban from adelaide oval for saying "stupid poms" or something, because that comes under the same heading as "paki". its like calling myself an aussie.

 

[andrew_nixon]

but it doesn't actually come under the term of rascism. rasims is generlising a certain type of people through culture or skin colour. it may be offensive, and please don;t get me wrong, i dnt think it should continue, but it isn't technically rascist. am i going to get a life ban from adelaide oval for saying "stupid poms" or something, because that comes under the same heading as "paki". its like calling myself an aussie.

How many times do we have to tell you? That word IS racist!

 

[irottev]

The last three games Australia were without McGrath, the opposition sides scored:

VS NZ, Australia won by only 2 runs and conceded 320
VS NZ, New Zealand broke the highest chase record, getting 332 runs off the Australian attack.
VS Sri Lanka and lost the game by 51 runs after SL got 309 runs.

Its not like McGrath isn't going passed the outside edge and he isn't bowling half volleys.

 

[aussie1st]

There was however that one good game in NZ where Lee was at his best. Or the Kiwis just hadn't faced someone as quick as him. But Lee hasn't managed to do anything similar to that since and as we see 300+ has been scored. The good thing is guys like Bracken and Clark are getting more game time so hopefully in the future if McGrath is rested or injuried we can cope better.

 

[barmyarmy]

but it doesn't actually come under the term of rascism. rasims is generlising a certain type of people through culture or skin colour. it may be offensive, and please don;t get me wrong, i dnt think it should continue, but it isn't technically rascist. am i going to get a life ban from adelaide oval for saying "stupid poms" or something, because that comes under the same heading as "paki". its like calling myself an aussie.

Maybe in Australia but definitely not in Britain. The two terms aren't even remotely comparable over here.

 

[ajay2k5]

Anyway back onto the Topic of Cricket..

I made a thread not so long ago stating that I was worried about Australia's Bowling attack, especially test matches where in a few years without McGrath and Warne we will struggle to take wickets, but lately I see more trouble in ODI, once you take out McGrath there is really no one to tie down one end, Lee will always go for around 4 per over as he is an attacking bowling, but we will need someone to be just as good as McGrath at the other end.

 

[Sureshot]

but it doesn't actually come under the term of rascism. rasims is generlising a certain type of people through culture or skin colour. it may be offensive, and please don;t get me wrong, i dnt think it should continue, but it isn't technically rascist. am i going to get a life ban from adelaide oval for saying "stupid poms" or something, because that comes under the same heading as "paki". its like calling myself an aussie.

Your mixing Racism and Xenophobia.

The term "Paki" is racist because it's aimed at the race of Asian origin.

The Races:

Asian
American Indian
European
Polynesian
African
Indic

from the Phillips illustrated atlas.

Something like pom would come under Xenophobia even though it means something completely different to what Australians use it under.

 

[IloveGilly]

We have Bracken, Clark, Tait, White, Hopes, Cullen.
Early, but they just need time.

 

[y2j826]

We have Bracken, Clark, Tait, White, Hopes, Cullen.
Early, but they just need time.

thats true australia have lot of talent for future, but prob is what they have in present only 2 bolwers now, mcgrath and lee and if one got injured they have to depend on inexperienced bolwers. May be gillespie will return after some time.

 

[tsyrmas]

Anyway back onto the Topic of Cricket..

I made a thread not so long ago stating that I was worried about Australia's Bowling attack, especially test matches where in a few years without McGrath and Warne we will struggle to take wickets, but lately I see more trouble in ODI, once you take out McGrath there is really no one to tie down one end, Lee will always go for around 4 per over as he is an attacking bowling, but we will need someone to be just as good as McGrath at the other end.

Sruart Clark is being moulded into that kind of player. i think he has lots of potential

 

[aussie1st]

We may well see Dizzy back into the frame. He could be a darkhorse for the WC just because of his experience. But its hard to tell right now with Clark and Bracken as both are doing well but thats with McGrath.

 

[jazz]

I agree irottev, without McGrath, Aus concede 300 easy. Its not a case of he isn't performing, its more he isn't taking wickets. Lets wait to the test matches before saying he is over the hill. If he can't take wickets in test matches then its a worry unless wickets are coming from the other end.
But for ODIs McGrath can keep conceding 30 runs in his 10 overs and I'll be happy. The same happens to Vettori and Murali.

the last time i saw mcgrath at his best was the first test of the ashes at lords last year