Twenty20 World XI's - Asia, ROW, World XI

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as long as its not international cricket he will perform in t20's and no.5 is perfect for him.

Why choose anyone on anything other then international performances?
We are talking about international cricket here.
 

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Why choose anyone on anything other then international performances?
We are talking about international cricket here.

because they play way more t20's domestically than they do internationally. not just talking about the IPL either. And we know how dangerous he can be.
 

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because they play way more t20's domestically than they do internationally. not just talking about the IPL either. And we know how dangerous he can be.

Yea against bowlers like me and you. When it comes to facing a bowling attack with 4 good bowlers we all know that he is not dangerous as that average of 18 shows. Picking a World XI on domestic performances is just plain stupid.
 

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World XI

Jacques Kallis 6
Mahela Jayawardene
Kumar Sangakkara+
Kevin Pietersen
Eoin Morgan
Umar Akmal/Cameron White
Darren Sammy 5
Dan Vettori * 4
Lasith Malinga 2
Saeed Ajmal 3
Shaun Tait 1

4 overs a piece for Vettori, Malinga, Tait and Ajmal with Sammy and Kallis getting 2 each. Strong batting and strong bowling.

No way should he be anywhere near any world XI.

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I was surprised too. He has a low economy and takes wickets all the time. The best 20/20 spinner atm.

Not sure if i'd call him the best. He certainly displays the most effective variety of any spin bowler in T20 cricket internationally. But his batting & fielding pulls him down.

Guys like Vettori, Swann, Afridi, Harbhajan are all fantastic T20 slow bowlers & offer stronger batting & fielding, which would make the overall World XI much stronger.


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Some of the teams being listed (especially the World T20 XIs) don't seem to have many bowling options which in my opinion is a rather underrated factor considering the hot/cold nature of T20 matches, particularly for bowlers.

For sure. You cant hide bowlers in a T20 like in ODIs. You need at least 6 strong bowling options in a T20 attack (if you can find it of course). A world XI should definately be able to supply that.
 

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No way should he be anywhere near any world XI.

Sammys bowling average this year is brilliant and he has done well with the bat over that year. I picked him more for his bowling, it was between him and Mathews. Sammy is a bowler that likes the turning tracks and that had to do allot with the decision too, Tait and Malinga arent the pace bowlers that would do well on those tracks.

Not sure if i'd call him the best. He certainly displays the most effective variety of any spin bowler in T20 cricket internationally. But his batting & fielding pulls him down.

Guys like Vettori, Swann, Afridi, Harbhajan are all fantastic T20 slow bowlers & offer stronger batting & fielding, which would make the overall World XI much stronger.

Ajmal is the best spinner. The guys you mentioned are more all-rounders which is fine if you want to pack your side with 8 all rounders but I prefer the guys that get the wickets every time. Harbhajan in 22 matches only has 16 wickets and his economy is worse then Ajmals and I don't even want to mention Harbhajans bowling average.
 

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Personally I'd go for the player that picks up just as many wickets per game but also goes at a lower RPO, can bat, and isn't toatally lost in the field.
 

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If I had to remove anyone from my team it would be Sammy for Mathews or Afridi.
 

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Asia XI:

1.G Ghambir
2.T Dilshan
3.U Akmal
4.K Sangakara(wk)(vc)
5.S Raina
6.A Mathews
7.S Afridi(c)
8.M Ameer
9.U Gul
10.S Ajmal
11.L Malinga

Rest of the World:

1.C Gayle
2.B McCullum (WK)
3.E Morgan
4.G White
5.R Taylor
6.M Hussey
7.D Bravo
8.S Watson
9.D Vettori (C)
10.S Tait
11.D Nannes

World XI:


1.C Gayle
2.T Dilshan
3.E Morgan
4.U Akmal
5.K Sangakara (WK)(vc)
6.M Hussey
7.S Afridi (c)
8.M Ameer
9.U Gul
10.S Ajmal
11.S Tait
 

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Not sure if i'd call him the best. He certainly displays the most effective variety of any spin bowler in T20 cricket internationally. But his batting & fielding pulls him down.

Guys like Vettori, Swann, Afridi, Harbhajan are all fantastic T20 slow bowlers & offer stronger batting & fielding, which would make the overall World XI much stronger.
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no need for an extra bat when you have so many great batters already. would rather have one of the best bowlers in T20 and clearly Ajmal is leagues and shoulders ahead Vettori, Harbajan, Swann or XYZ.

T20 is the game for bowlers... so you should have the best bowling line up first before getting the batsman in. Haven't you learned anything from Pakistan? Their batting is total crap yet they have an incredible win ratio because their bowling is the best in the world in T20.
 

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no need for an extra bat when you have so many great batters already. would rather have one of the best bowlers in T20 and clearly Ajmal is leagues and shoulders ahead Vettori, Harbajan, Swann or XYZ.

No Ajmal aint leagues above Vettori, Harbhajan & Swann at all. Saying that would be overating Ajmal. They all are amongst the most difficult to hit T20 spinners around.

A team would lose nothing in the bowling department if one of Afridi, Vettori, Swann, Bhaji is picked instead.

Plus you are clearly under-rating the importance of batting deep in a T20. If Australia didn't have strong batting down to # 9 vs Pakistan in the T20 semi-final this year. They would have never chased down that target.

WORLD T20 XI:

Kallis
McCullum+
Pietersen
De Villiers
Morgan
White
Afridi
Vettori
Steyn
Malinga
Tait

How would not picking Ajmal make this team any less stronger??


T20 is the game for bowlers... so you should have the best bowling line up first before getting the batsman in. Haven't you learned anything from Pakistan? Their batting is total crap yet they have an incredible win ratio because their bowling is the best in the world in T20.

No way is T20 a game for bowlers. It is certainly a batting game. Only certain type of bowlers who where very good @ bowling in the last 10 overs of 50 over game or power-play overs.

For fast bowlers: Only those who have the ability to bowl excellent yorkers MAINLY. Along with who have great guile i.e ability to bowl slower deliveries, slower bouncer. Line & lenght bowlers like your Stuart Clarks or swing bowlers like your James Andersons generally are crap in T20.

For spinners: Only those with great guile. Spinners who bowl darts get smashed. But in 50 over game dart spinners can have success.

Thus overall T20 for bowlers is basically made for bowlers with specific skill-sets. Its not for everybody.
 

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How would not picking Ajmal make this team any less stronger??
It makes. Having a specialist spin bowler and that too some one who is well equipped with wicket taking ability will surely strength the team plus it adds variety and depth so the team can control runs even when your fast bowlers are going for plenty.(for all specialist spinners not for Ajmal only)
 
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It makes. Having a specialist spin bowler and that too some one who is well equipped with wicket taking ability will surely increase strength the team plus it adds variety and depth so the team can control runs even when your fast bowlers are going for plenty.(for all specialist spinners not for Ajmal only)

Vettori is one of hardest bowlers to hit in world too & gets wickets. While Afridi has great variety. Batsmen will have a hard time getting those two away most times. You are not losing anything.

Plus In Steyn, Tait, Malinga. You also got three perfect T20 fast bowlers bowlers. Who can get you wickets in the first 6 overs - plus bowl superb yorkers in the last few overs.

So thats a perfect 5 bowlers (inlcuding two spinners who bat & field better than Ajmal). You dont need Ajmal.
 

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Vettori is a good container not as aggressive in T20 as Ajmal is and that can easily be back by stats.

Player |Mat |Inns |Balls |Runs |Wkts |BBI | BBM| Ave| Econ| SR| 4w| 5w| 10
Daniel Vettori|28| 28| 649| 580| 35| 4/20| 4/20| 16.57| 5.36| 18.5| 1| 0| 0
Saeed Ajmal|22| 22| 503| 528| 35| 4/19| 4/19| 15.08| 6.29| 14.3| 2| 0| 0
 

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Vettori can bat, and his economy rate is much better, a very crucial factor in T20s.

Tait is not the perfect T20 bowler, I'd rather have Gul I think.
 

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