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So India is doing a good job of bringing up some quality pace bowlers in reserve right now apart from the ones we have playing for test side right now. I really like how Shami, Bumrah and Ishant has bowled since the South Africa tour. We have Umesh Yadav and Bhuvi who can fill up their spot if one of those 3 gets injured. In reserve we also have likes of Siraj, Saini, Avesh Khan, Rajpoot etc. However, BCCI needs to find them a county contract if possible. If that means they have to miss IPL, that's fine. I remember how Zaheer Khan was a completely changed bowler after he had a stint with Worcestershire in 2006. We all have seen how much have Ishant improved in last couple of years and his county stint with Sussex with Jason Gillespie only made him a better bowler. So I would love to see these young boys get a county stint.
 

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If that means they have to miss IPL, that's fine
Yeh, that's not happening. The franchises pay a ton of money for the players so they would object to it. And if they don't pay enough/leave out a player owing to unavailability, the player would complain. Double edged sword really.
 

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Yeh, that's not happening. The franchises pay a ton of money for the players so they would object to it. And if they don't pay enough/leave out a player owing to unavailability, the player would complain. Double edged sword really.

True. And also another point in response to @Aalay 's post, we also cannot misuse England county cricket to groom our fast bowlers. Definitely the ECB and the English/world audience will get a wind of it and will surely object to it and force ECB to clamp down on overseas cricketers taking to county cricket. Why would any competing country want to groom a rival country's players on their own soil? It will be counterproductive when England face India in a WC or a test series where a lot is at stake.

We better improve our own infrastructure to ensure that our fast bowlers and batsmen get high quality competition in our domestic system and improve their games within their own homes.
 

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True. And also another point in response to @Aalay 's post, we also cannot misuse England county cricket to groom our fast bowlers. Definitely the ECB and the English/world audience will get a wind of it and will surely object to it and force ECB to clamp down on overseas cricketers taking to county cricket. Why would any competing country want to groom a rival country's players on their own soil? It will be counterproductive when England face India in a WC or a test series where a lot is at stake.

We better improve our own infrastructure to ensure that our fast bowlers and batsmen get high quality competition in our domestic system and improve their games within their own homes.

Isn't that the same with IPL ? We have hell lot of West Indies players in IPL and the result was they won the 2016 WT20. And we still continue with it. I don't actually see a problem in it. I think as per the rules it comes down to player's choice whether they want to play there or not.
 

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True. And also another point in response to @Aalay 's post, we also cannot misuse England county cricket to groom our fast bowlers. Definitely the ECB and the English/world audience will get a wind of it and will surely object to it and force ECB to clamp down on overseas cricketers taking to county cricket. Why would any competing country want to groom a rival country's players on their own soil? It will be counterproductive when England face India in a WC or a test series where a lot is at stake.

We better improve our own infrastructure to ensure that our fast bowlers and batsmen get high quality competition in our domestic system and improve their games within their own homes.
The ECB and counties wouldn't object to overseas cricketers coming to county cricket. Particularly Indian players as it might get more bums on seats. Peter Siddle, Marnus Labuschagne and Cameron Bancroft all played county cricket this year.
 

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Seriously this guy seems to be high on something. :rolleyes

Ravi Shastri said:
“This team has an opportunity to do great things. We have a legacy like the West Indies did the in Eighties and Australia did in the turn of the century. This team too has an opportunity to leave that kind of legacy and they are already doing it.

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But he did show some brains when he silenced the rumour of rift between Kohli and Rohit. Anyways, that was insanely stupid thing to say about the performance of current Indian Team.
 

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Rohit Sharma to open against South Africa. What do you guys have to say about it?
 

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As test cricket's quality and importance diminishes, we get to see such decisions being made. :facepalm:noway That's all I can say.
 

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Thought it was a baseless rumour when it first appeared, but it seems to be true now. Rahul deserved to be axed and Gill deserved a call-up too. But Rohit as the opener? Why? Just why?

With Rohit, he simply seems to get ‘bored’ and goes for the pressure relieving shot when he is put under crunch. This problem of his will be a lot more amplified as an opener. This is also a slap in the face for hardworking Ranji openers like Easwaran and Panchal, who have done nothing really wrong till date and deserved at least one game ahead of someone like Rohit.

I’m fully expecting Rohit to pile runs on in one innings, stay in the side until he is ruthlessly exposed in New Zealand. The optimistic scenario would be Rabada taking full advantage of Rohit’s issues and Gill opening in the third test, playing a leading role and consolidating his position as the opener for the New Zealand series. He is a naturally aggressive opener too and has been beyond impressive at every level he has consistently played in.
 

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As test cricket's quality and importance diminishes, we get to see such decisions being made. :facepalm:noway That's all I can say.

It’s beyond infuriating when you remember that Australia tried a similar experiment with Finch last year for the sake of trying to have one captain for all three formats. It backfired spectacularly, Finch very nearly lost his spot in the ODI side too and looked clueless versus any inswinger for a year after it. England tried the same with Roy and he has shown himself to be equally incompetent as a test opener. What makes the current management think that Rohit will be any different?
 

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For all reasons I have a negative vote towards Rohit opening in Tests. And just in case if he succeeds he could be the luckiest player to play for India ever in the history of Indian Cricket. Don't know what made the selectors to make Rohit Sharma open in Test. That makes this selection group absolutely laughable.
 

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Rohit Sharma to open against South Africa. What do you guys have to say about it?
I've accepted that fact, reality and was expecting it to be honest so not a shocker to me. I'll say something different which would be okay let's give the guy who has done exceptionally well in limited overs and his contribution to the team has been amazing so before people write him off in Tests he should be given one last chance given his current form which would then make it fair and square for him. He should get few matches and that should be enough, if he succeeds then good if he doesn't let's give the ones piling up runs in domestic circuit the chance they deserve. At least we'd get done with the controversy. Now patiently waiting to see him perform, looking at his current form I somewhere down the line think he might just succeed.
 

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As I said in my last post, if Rohit Sharma is in the squad, it is very tempting to fit him in the final 11 no matter what the position is. Of course he has barely opened in Ranji trophy in the past but same was the case when he was asked to open in ODI's. Yes ODI's and tests are different and the red ball moves around quite a lot in test and that has been Rohit's weakness. However, as I said in my last post that if they really wanted to try Rohit as an opener, a home series was the perfect opportunity. The selectors have done exactly that.

KL Rahul hasn't helped his case at all. He has been very poor int hat channel outside the off stump and sometimes it almost feels like he doesn't know where his off stump is. This break can be a good thing for him. As I said, Prithvi Shaw has chosen the worst time to get banned otherwise he would be opening the batting with Mayank in this home series. I feel bad for Abhimanyu Easwaran because he has toiled hard in domestic cricket and on A tours but didn't get the reward he deserved here. Good to see Gill getting the call-up after his consistent performances.

Also a little surprising to not see Hardik in the test squad. His non-selection tells me that pitches are likely to be spin friendly.
 

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It’s beyond infuriating when you remember that Australia tried a similar experiment with Finch last year for the sake of trying to have one captain for all three formats. It backfired spectacularly, Finch very nearly lost his spot in the ODI side too and looked clueless versus any inswinger for a year after it. England tried the same with Roy and he has shown himself to be equally incompetent as a test opener. What makes the current management think that Rohit will be any different?

How great would be it (in my opinion) to have a time machine now where we can go back in time and make sure Sehwag does not succeed as a test opener? This Rohit experiment is because the Sehwag experiment freakily worked and also because the guy who pulled off the Sehwag experiment (Ganguly) has vouched for Rohit as test opener. :facepalm

It's absolutely ridiculous. I want to know what Rahul Dravid thinks about this move. I rate him as the best mind in Indian cricket and I sincerely hope he is not in the same page as far as this is concerned. If I really want to pick a makeshift opener, I would pick a batsman with a solid technique. Test opening is a very tough ball game, more so in conditions which are sporting. You are facing the new ball and you don't have the luxury of playing only for 20 or 50 overs. You bat time and you have bowlers coming hard at you with the new ball.
 

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Haha how convenient. A home series for Rohit to open in tests and thr assurance that he will get to play all 3 tests. Some folks just have everything going their way. Why not bring back dhawan too in that case. He can destroy attacks in home conditions in tests. Then we can realistically aim for 450+ runs on day 1
 

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