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Six teams just seems too small, Pakistan is no Australia and have a lot more cricketers. Eight would be fine is my guess.
In fact, PCB briefed PM and recommended him to have 8 or 10 teams due to the high number of active Cricketers. PM listened/watched the entire presentation and replied 'we'll go with 6 teams'. So, PCB had to implement that. By the way, this is confirmed and has been narrated by CEO PCB himself in a few instances.

PCB has been given a roadmap by the PM and their job is to implement it. Ideally, I would have personally liked 8 teams, each with a 2nd XI. So, it becomes 16 competitive and elite teams.
 

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Umar Gul - We need departmental cricket back in Pakistan

Honestly, I agree with Gul here. We can easily have a departmental tournament for players who don't make it in the 6 regional teams. Hundreds of good cricketers would again have means to make a decent living from the sport. They shouldn't be ignored.
@Na Maloom Afraad @AsadRM @Salman.
I remember Wasim Khan saying something like, "We are not here to provide livelihood, we are here to to make a competitive team."
I agree with this.
 

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I remember Wasim Khan saying something like, "We are not here to provide livelihood, we are here to to make a competitive team."
I agree with this.
If you can't provide livelihood, you'll have less and less people deciding to play professionally.
 

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If you can't provide livelihood, you'll have less and less people deciding to play professionally.
Exactly! Not everyone out of 220 Million is going to make it to those limited 150-300 number of available spots. The rest can't starve themselves and their family.

Compare that to Australia, where Cricket is (arguably) the 3rd/2nd most popular sport and the country has a population of 25 Million. Implementing Australia's structure in Pakistan seems delusional to me.
 
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Can Babar Azam play a knock like KL played today? Even in the PSL?

I've not seen it and that's why he does not feature in the top T20 batsmen of the world. The ICC rankings can go for a monkey's rear for all I care.
 

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Can Babar Azam play a knock like KL played today? Even in the PSL?

I've not seen it and that's why he does not feature in the top T20 batsmen of the world. The ICC rankings can go for a monkey's rear for all I care.
Didn't he just hit a similar century in the T20 Blast a week ago?
 

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Didn't he just hit a similar century in the T20 Blast a week ago?
I guess he was talking about the SR and the dominance of bowlers/opposition as a whole by the batsman. I believe that Babar Azam still lacks in that area but he doesn't need that either because his role being different. I remember how Sachin Tendulkar had to carry the Mumbai Indians to the Final single handedly back in 2010 IPL. Maybe I am going too far behind since the game has drastically changed since then. But I think Sachin as a whole was a class above any batsman to have played the game apart from Bradman. Although 90s Sachin would give a tough competition to the Yuvraj Singh of 2007 WT20. I think we should let Babar discover himself rather than pointing at something he doesn't do well at.
 

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Can Babar Azam play a knock like KL played today? Even in the PSL?

I've not seen it and that's why he does not feature in the top T20 batsmen of the world. The ICC rankings can go for a monkey's rear for all I care.
As Yash said, he has played similar innings in the T20 Blast, yet to translate it to internationals though.
The T20I rankings are very misleading indeed, as most teams only play at full strength in the year preceding the WT20.
 

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There is a vast difference in making a century in a T20 blast and in an IPL match. The IPL is an international level tournament and all other leagues of the world are comfortably one or two brackets lower. And IPL itself is not international cricket. So yes, my argument stands.
 

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True, the IPL does have a higher level of competition, that point is valid. However, its not Babar's fault that he can't play in it. You can only beat what is in front of you. You can only dominate the tournaments that you play in. He definitely should increase his strike rate in t20is if he wants to be the best t20 batsman in the world but he did perform well in the blast which right now, is the most he can do
 

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I'm a big fan of Misbah Bhai, he disappointed me again. Tolerance is the key when things aren't going well. But, he surrendered. His record is not good as a chief selector. I think, poor mental health is the reason behind this decision. It's the fear of failure & criticism. He is a serious man & often reacts to every criticism. It's self-destructive. If Zimbabwe beat Pakistan in the upcoming series, he will sure step down as head coach.
 

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I'm a big fan of Misbah Bhai, he disappointed me again. Tolerance is the key when things aren't going well. But, he surrendered. His record is not good as a chief selector. I think, poor mental health is the reason behind this decision. It's the fear of failure & criticism. He is a serious man & often reacts to every criticism. It's self-destructive. If Zimbabwe beat Pakistan in the upcoming series, he will sure step down as head coach.
I'm a huge fan of Misbah too. The way he led us to #1 in Test Rankings, defeated India in India, South Africa in SA, whitewashed Eng and Aus in UAE, won an Asia Cup, and became the first Pakistani skipper to win a Test series in the Caribbean was exemplary, given that he took over after the 2010 saga.

Now does this guarantee that he'll be a great chief selector or coach? No in my opinion. Sorry to say this but selecting Imran Khan, Kashif Bhatti, Ahmed Shahzad, Umar Akmal, Ahsan Ali, a premature Musa Khan, benching Khushdil during the entire T20 series and benching Haider for the first 2 T20s in England, etc mean that he won't receive a lot of sympathy from ardent Cricket fans. He wasn't good enough as a selector. Simple!

However, he has been pretty solid with his coaching role, mostly, e.g. playing 2 spinners in Manchester Test was a great move, given that how the pitch was behaving. Unfortunately, Shadab let his tactics down with below-par bowling.

Lastly, if Zimbabwe beat Pakistan in Pakistan then Misbah might even quit coaching forever, let alone the Pakistan head coach gig, as losing a 3-match series to a 14th ranked team in your backyard would be unacceptable in my opinion.[DOUBLEPOST=1602672088][/DOUBLEPOST]
Just realized that I had posted this in the wrong thread. :facepalm

@RUDI or some other admin, could you kindly move these 2-3 posts related to Misbah's resignation to the 'Pakistan Team Discussion' thread?
 
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I'm a big fan of Misbah Bhai, he disappointed me again. Tolerance is the key when things aren't going well. But, he surrendered. His record is not good as a chief selector. I think, poor mental health is the reason behind this decision. It's the fear of failure & criticism. He is a serious man & often reacts to every criticism. It's self-destructive. If Zimbabwe beat Pakistan in the upcoming series, he will sure step down as head coach.
He resigned because the PCB's new ethics code doesn't allow him to hold two positions concurrently.
 

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