VB Series in Australia

[601731]

agarkar didnt bowl at all :scratch: ...maybe he played as a batsman ;D:

 

[squiz]

Originally posted by 0601731@Jan 29 2004, 06:26 PM
agarkar didnt bowl at all :scratch: ...maybe he played as a batsman ;D:

Is he a good batsman coz I've never seen him play good before, and I've heard he can hit the ball pretty good

 

[nikhilverma]

but look at his test batting he has had so much trouble in getting off the mark these days

 

[squiz]

I think he must just struggle against Australia coz he doesn't do very well against them

 

[wackojacko]

i think in the last tour of australia he got like 7 consecutive ducks in the test series

 

[andrew_nixon]

The 10th game of the VB Series has been abandoned due to rain.

Result

Australia: 263/9 (Bevan 56)

No Result

 

[ashwinkm]

I think even though the rain rule does favour the team batting second , since they know exactly how much they have to score it appears to be the best we have and teams should learn to live with it. ALthough I am an Indian supporter and felt very dissappointed when we lost to aus , I still think we could have easily won - after all it is not easy for a tailender to score 11 runs of the last over. The key is that it was a FANTASTIC game of cricket. Aus have been playing wonderful cricket for a while now , but just the fact that India has lifted up its game so much in the last 2-3 mos(Actually even in the WC2003- except the final) has meant that the quality of cricket thats been played has been extraordinary . The Indian batting line up really has been firing on all cylinders.I mean when was the last time that we were 4/3 without tendulkar and ganguly (who was out) and sehwag and we scored 280 runs. What has impressed me is that the batting lineup has finally come of age and doesnt depend on sachin . I think it is time for him to play his aggressive game. Too often have we seen this team collapse once he gets out after a good start.With dravid, laxman and yuvraj he doesnt have to worry.
I agree with Steve Waugh , I think the two teams that are playing the best cricket these days are Ind and Aus and we should have a border gavaskar trophy every year or two years like the ashes.

My prediction for the final is that India will win one and then lose the next two , but they will all be close.

 

[Nirav85]

Originally posted by ashwinkm@Jan 30 2004, 12:10 AM
I think even though the rain rule does favour the team batting second , since they know exactly how much they have to score

even without rain they know what they have to score...

 

[ashwinkm]

What I meant was if you are smart , then you know exactly how many runs to score to avoid defeat at every stage of the game and try to kepp on top of it ,(Unless you are SA - remember how they botched that one up in this world cup , they got their calculations wrong.)Also if say the score is 300 at 6rpo and the match is shortened, then should the fielding restrictions.However if a team scores 100 runs in the 1st 15 overs , and then it rains and the match is shortened to say 35 overs- you have already score a good proportion of the runs when the fielding restrictions were on so it becomes slightly easier.If say the match was shortened to 35 overs before you start then the fielding restrictions should be reduced to say 10 or 9 to make it an equal percentage of your total innings. This is not taken into account into the D/L since they felt that it doesnt impact the net score. I am not quite sure I agree though.When you are chasing say 300 of 50 overs with 15 overs fielding restriction , how can it be the same as chasing 225 in 35 overs , but with 15 overs of fielding restrictions. Means you knock off a greater percentage of the total when the field is in and if it rains after the 15 overs have already been bowled then it is impossible to make any change.I dont know if that makes sense to anyone!!!

 

[Nirav85]

again read oyur first line either way they a team will know how ot pace their innings as their is a requred run rate....but if i am stupid

then r u telling me that we shouldnt tell the other team what they have to achieve...oneway or another a team will know its required rate...

 

[ashwinkm]

What I was trying to say was if you are chasing a large total,and you have fully utilized the 15 over rules, it may help the team batting second slightly. Say you are chasing a large score and you hit out in the first 15 overs and then it rains and the target is much smaller, the team batting second has a slightly better chance of getting there. I feel that if the match is shortened , then the fielding restrictions should also be decrease whenever possible to make it fair. Of course if it rains after 15 overs then nothing can be done. But if it rains before D/L should shorten the fielding restrictions. My understanding is that the D/L rule didnt change this as they felt the 15 over rule didnt make a difference to the overall total (This was in 1994).Since then things have changed , teams consistently score over 300 runs these days and utilize the 15 overs to the fullest. So I am just questioning this aspect of a 10 year old rule in the current context.
Hope that was a little less confusing than my previous post- if not I will try to send you links regarding this same topic- ie how d/l doesnt consider fielding restrictions.

 

[ricky123]

Originally posted by ashwinkm@Jan 30 2004, 02:47 AM
What I meant was if you are smart , then you know exactly how many runs to score to avoid defeat at every stage of the game and try to kepp on top of it ,(Unless you are SA - remember how they botched that one up in this world cup , they got their calculations wrong.)Also if say the score is 300 at 6rpo and the match is shortened, then should the fielding restrictions.However if a team scores 100 runs in the 1st 15 overs , and then it rains and the match is shortened to say 35 overs- you have already score a good proportion of the runs when the fielding restrictions were on so it becomes slightly easier.If say the match was shortened to 35 overs before you start then the fielding restrictions should be reduced to say 10 or 9 to make it an equal percentage of your total innings. This is not taken into account into the D/L since they felt that it doesnt impact the net score. I am not quite sure I agree though.When you are chasing say 300 of 50 overs with 15 overs fielding restriction , how can it be the same as chasing 225 in 35 overs , but with 15 overs of fielding restrictions. Means you knock off a greater percentage of the total when the field is in and if it rains after the 15 overs have already been bowled then it is impossible to make any change.I dont know if that makes sense to anyone!!!

B) if ur talking aboutthe match between ind and aus

where aus were given a target of225 after rain .the feild restriction were only for 10 overs for aus.

although i think it should have been for 15 overs ,but who can argue with duck worth method

 

[ricky123]

B) ricky ponting wont be playing in perth against india.

and bevan will not play in the finals due to injury :sorry: :sorry:


i feel so bad ,now the aussies will get a excuse for losing to india.

but the good news is warne and mcgra both will be back next month . :

 

[Nirav85]

sometimes i cant decide if u r indian or austrlian :

but maybe they should call it the duck worth useless system :

 

[ricky123]

Originally posted by amir51@Jan 30 2004, 07:24 AM
sometimes i cant decide if u r indian or austrlian :

but maybe they should call it the duck worth useless system :

B) i am indian