The VB Series 2006

[Cricket_60]

Wasn't that out? I thought it flicked his glove on the way through.

 

[James219]

OMG!!! Katich played a solid innings last night and still people are calling for his to be dropped! What exactly is the point of having to slashers opening the batting when we can have one very effective one, and another batsmen to work the singles, hit the od boundary, and make sure hes solid from his end? if jaques and Gilly open our innings, we have a higher chance of a collapse. leave the poor bloke alone. he does his job, give him time. Ponting only scored 3 tons in his first 23 tests, imagine if we hadn't persisted with him. Katich is a quality batsmen, and plays an important role in the ODI lineup.

If you give a guy that many chances then obviously he's going to score the odd half-century, that really doesn't redeem him in any way. He's not a poor batsman, he's quality, but you cannot constantly give someone that many chances when they clearly haven't come to terms with the position and to add you have another player snapping at your heels with one of the most impressive domestic records going around. And Jaques isn't a slasher, just a quick scorer who plays conventional strokes. Katich has chosen to play the role of playing through the new ball and guiding the middle order, yet he fails to go on and complete the task.

Anyway, even though I still think Dorey has enough in him to perform at this level, Stuart Clark has been treated quite harshly, even when he has performed with hardly any flaws in the opportunities given to him. I admit he was unlucky with the supersub thing in the previous match. He probably should get preference over Dorey, despite Dorey having had an unlucky introduction and looks to be a decent player with his qualities.

 

[ZexyZahid]

It's good to see the Sri Lankan batsmen are getting in form. But the Sri Lankan bowlers need to work a bit harder. I hope next match against Australia will be a great match to see also. In previous they played with Martyn at number 4. I hope he stays there, since he is very reliable there.

 

[Sureshot]

They shouldn't have dropped Perera imo for the game yesterday, he has done well. Don't think Ganegama (sp?) will get another game.

 

[ZexyZahid]

I hope Perera comes back tomorrow. He did pretty well against Australia.

 

[y2j826]

According to news on local TV channel Bracken is not playing in next match against s. lanka due to personal reasons, Australia really has to find one specialist bolwer as a substitute of bracken.

 

[aussie1st]

OMG!!! Katich played a solid innings last night and still people are calling for his to be dropped! What exactly is the point of having to slashers opening the batting when we can have one very effective one, and another batsmen to work the singles, hit the od boundary, and make sure hes solid from his end? if jaques and Gilly open our innings, we have a higher chance of a collapse. leave the poor bloke alone. he does his job, give him time. Ponting only scored 3 tons in his first 23 tests, imagine if we hadn't persisted with him. Katich is a quality batsmen, and plays an important role in the ODI lineup.

Lol solid inns yes, and Aus are greatful. But what about a guy named Jaques. Why was he dropped after making the highest score by an aussie on ODI debut? Then he goes back to ING and makes a 100, what on earth does he have to do to get into the team?

According to news on local TV channel Bracken is not playing in next match against s. lanka due to personal reasons, Australia really has to find one specialist bolwer as a substitute of bracken.

You didn't need to watch the news it was on foxsports ages ago. Specialist bowler is Clark and we have Dorey too.

 

[irottev]

OMG!!! Katich played a solid innings last night and still people are calling for his to be dropped! What exactly is the point of having to slashers opening the batting when we can have one very effective one, and another batsmen to work the singles, hit the od boundary, and make sure hes solid from his end? if jaques and Gilly open our innings, we have a higher chance of a collapse. leave the poor bloke alone. he does his job, give him time. Ponting only scored 3 tons in his first 23 tests, imagine if we hadn't persisted with him. Katich is a quality batsmen, and plays an important role in the ODI lineup.

Because he only ever does half the job. Hes never gone on to make a hundred after heaps of starts. he hasn't even hit the 80's or 90's yet. Jacques got 94 runs and won Australia the match and got dropped for it. If Katich was scoring at a fast clip like Gilchrist and made quickfire 50's and 60's then it would be fine, but if hes going to take time to get in and try play the anchor role, he can't get himself out. He should bat at least until the 35th-40th over mark. And hes never actually done that judging by his scores.

 

[aussie1st]

Because he only ever does half the job. Hes never gone on to make a hundred after heaps of starts. he hasn't even hit the 80's or 90's yet. Jacques got 94 runs and won Australia the match and got dropped for it. If Katich was scoring at a fast clip like Gilchrist and made quickfire 50's and 60's then it would be fine, but if hes going to take time to get in and try play the anchor role, he can't get himself out. He should bat at least until the 35th-40th over mark. And hes never actually done that judging by his scores.

Spot on, also Hayden who liked to do the anchor role also was called to be sacked because of his lack of 100s. He too scored slowly but picked it up after getting a 100 which wasn't often. So don't think its just Katich getting harsh treatment as the best player in the test arena at the time also struggled in the ODI suggesting he wasn't suited to ODIs just like Katich.

Also tsyrmas you say with Jaques and Gilly that we would collaspe. That maybe true but we haven't actually seen the two bat together, something the selectors should be trying now given we all know what Katich and Gilly do as an opening partnership.

 

[irottev]

If Gilchrist and Katich have to go out and chase 300 odd, if Katich doesn't score at a quick rate, then all the pressure will go onto Gilchrist. I would like to see if Katich could play the aggressive game when the field is up. Hes a good test player, I just think Australia have a few top order batsman in domestic cricket who should be getting in the team who are more suited to one day matches.

 

[siddharth2002]

That bloke Katich is such a bore to watch. Why the heck is he still playing. Although Jaques also seemed to lack some shots but at least way better then former.

 

[aussie1st]

Katich doesn't need to score at a quick rate, he just needs to give the strike to Gilly. Of course with our current lineup we have little hope of getting 300 as if Gilly got out Hodge comes in and you have 2 guys that can't score quickly. Then Martyn in next.

Jaques and Gilly to me is the perfect combo with Ponting of course back at 3. Jaques can play his normal game where he usually doesn't get out until he has made a big 100. Gilly can hit a quick fire 50 and get out and we still have Jaques to keep the run rate up.

 

[ajay2k5]

Katich doesn't need to score at a quick rate, he just needs to give the strike to Gilly. Of course with our current lineup we have little hope of getting 300 as if Gilly got out Hodge comes in and you have 2 guys that can't score quickly. Then Martyn in next.

Jaques and Gilly to me is the perfect combo with Ponting of course back at 3. Jaques can play his normal game where he usually doesn't get out until he has made a big 100. Gilly can hit a quick fire 50 and get out and we still have Jaques to keep the run rate up.

Maybe we need someone like yourself with brains on the selection panel, as what the selectors are doing are stupid, like Katich and Dorey should not get into the side, I would perfer Tait to come straight back in even though he has only been back playing for a week. Also surely Cosgrove is being looked at now right?

Anyway, can i get taken off Mod Watch now? Been on it for like forever..

 

[kodos]

I agree Jaques and Gilly will be the best combo well since Hayden and Gilchrist They both are aggressive, flamboyant batsmans but it doesn't mean that both will play with full aggression. The match at the Telstra Dome against South Africa where jaques scored 94, he batted very sensibly early on and wasn't too flamboyant until that Dale Steyn 24 runs over.

Katich is a decent batsman but it is the fact that he always has so many dot balls next to his name. For instance the match at the Adelaide Oval and the time when they were chasing 310. I would probably give Katich a go till the end of the series and see if can he accumulate a century or a decent total. If he doesn't and is dismissed for low totals such as under 30 than he will have to be replaced by Jaques when they tour SA.

 

[Sando]

OMG!!! Katich played a solid innings last night and still people are calling for his to be dropped! What exactly is the point of having to slashers opening the batting when we can have one very effective one, and another batsmen to work the singles, hit the od boundary, and make sure hes solid from his end? if jaques and Gilly open our innings, we have a higher chance of a collapse. leave the poor bloke alone. he does his job, give him time. Ponting only scored 3 tons in his first 23 tests, imagine if we hadn't persisted with him. Katich is a quality batsmen, and plays an important role in the ODI lineup.

Couldn't agree more. He's a quality batsmen who is a good foil for the rest of the Australian top/middle order that is comprised predominantly of aggressive stroke-makers (Gilchrist,Ponting,Clarke,Symonds etc). There is no question that Phil Jacques deserves a consistent crack at the big time, but I can't see a reason to drop Kato.

ODI records.

Katich 32.0avg 73.44 S/R
Sangakarra 34.98 avg 73.08 S/R
Fleming 32.03 avg 70.71 S/R

Fleming and Sangakarra are often thought of as pre-eminent ODI batsmen, yet their averages are modest, and comporable to the 'boring' Katich, does anyone care to explain the double standard?

And you don't have to make a ton to be making a contribution, particularly when you are facing the new ball. If you have the luxury of a number of explosive batsmen in your top five (as Australia do with Gilchrist, Ponting and Symonds) there's nothing wrong with having a guy at the other end that strikes it around 75 and will provide a consistently stable presence, and that's what Katich has provided in recent history.

Katich's ODI record since last VB Series (most recent first).

52, 19, 0, 60, 2, 36, 54, 47, 58, 30, 36*, 5, 43, 58, 0, 5, 9, 0, 76, 38.


I personally believe Jacques may be a better ODI batsmen, but not neccessarily a better fit for our top order.