The VB Series 2006

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We don't see South African fans complaining about their depth. And they are much worse off. I still havn't seen them comment that their best bowling attack are pretty much all at home right now unable to play. Which is the case. I am looking forward to SA vs AUS in South Africa. The teams will hopefully be more evenly matched. I still think South Africa are really missing Klusener, a great all rounder who can really accelerate late in an innings.
 
irottev said:
Why did he stop playing?

That series against India. After that series he just lost it, his ING and Pura form wasn't the best. Wasn't picked for Aus until last year.

Umpire hit on the arm :D

irottev said:
We don't see South African fans complaining about their depth. And they are much worse off. I still havn't seen them comment that their best bowling attack are pretty much all at home right now unable to play. Which is the case. I am looking forward to SA vs AUS in South Africa. The teams will hopefully be more evenly matched. I still think South Africa are really missing Klusener, a great all rounder who can really accelerate late in an innings.

That cause they all seem to have disappeared :D I bet if you go to a SA forum you will see them complaining.
 
LOL. Just saw that. Cost the batsmen 4 too I would say.

Clark really isn't impressing me right now.

Now why can't South Africa chase down 250 scores? They have batted pretty well here. They might of chased down the score had their bowlers not been too expensive.

Van Der Wath looks like a good lower order batsmen. Hes smashing them.
 
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irottev said:
2003 doesn't count. Thats ages ago.

And I didn't say we took to him. I said we scored 5 (and 6 on that second game) runs per over against him. Which we did.

How does the size of the ground have anything to do with a bowler bowling good deliverys? The ground may of been 10m shorter or whatever but the ball can't get to the boundary unless its there to hit.

They were good batting pitches though. I do give that to Bracken.

All I'm saying is that recent series was played on flat pitches and on postage stamp sized grounds both of which contributed to every fast/medium fast bowler going in excess of 5 rpo. I'm just saying Bracken wasn't by any stretch taken to the cleaners relative to the other bowlers that were subjected to those same conditions.

The fact is that Bracken through 28 ODI's has as good a record as any pace bowler going around.
 
Clark and Bracken not impressing. Geez this Van der Wath guy is a big hitter. Why wasn't he sent in before those snail batters. He is an all rounder of the future for SA.
 
You may think smaller grounds is bad because of more boundarys. Its made up for by less 2's and hardly ever any 3's.

WOW!!!

Van Der Wath is a real talent. Why is he so low. That was great hitting.

Your bang on aussie, might be a great all rounder in the making. They were all pretty clean hits.

ARGH! Reindeer sucks. I want more Van Der Wath! Get a single goddammit.
 
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He shouldn't bat any lower than 7. Also SA will have Pollock back so they will have a ton of big hitters. Most likely they need to drop Ruddoh or Prince as you can't have 2 slow guys.

Anyway Aus has comfirmed their victory although we knew it once the 2 snails came in.
 
he's just a slogger....anyone with big enough shoulders could do that...Rudolph is overall more talented...slogging doesnt make the batsman.

hmm slogger???

reminds me of chris cairns
 
irottev said:
You may think smaller grounds is bad because of more boundarys. Its made up for by less 2's and hardly ever any 3's.

WOW!!!

Van Der Wath is a real talent. Why is he so low.

They haven't had much to go on, he had only scored eight runs in his previous three matches including a first ball duck when he was sent in at three to lift the run rate. Will be interesting to see if he can replicate his brilliant hitting display outside of garbage time.

South Africa did all that they could tonight considering how many key bowlers they were missing. Hopefully they will be at full strength when Australia tour South Africa shortly.

Great stuff from the Aussies, another comprehensive victory secured. The Aussies extend their lead on the ODI table to 17, remaining at 135 whilst South Africa slip one point to 118.

genghis_khan said:
he's just a slogger....anyone with big enough shoulders could do that...Rudolph is overall more talented...slogging doesnt make the batsman.

hmm slogger???

reminds me of chris cairns

Did you just call on of the most destructive ODI batsmen ever to play the game a slogger...................... :eek:
 
genghis_khan said:
he's just a slogger....anyone with big enough shoulders could do that...Rudolph is overall more talented...slogging doesnt make the batsman.

hmm slogger???

reminds me of chris cairns

Give me Chris Cairns any day of the week. In fact give me van der Wath any month of the year ;) We need an all rounder and he isn't a bad one. Big hitter (slogger) too.
 
We are really struggling in the bowling department.I don't think our batting is a problem,just the losses of bowlers I think are not alowing us to fully compete.Good to see Johan Van Der Wath show what he can really do,all us saffas knew he could hit the ball,we were just waiting for him to prove it at this level.It makes me wonder what could have happened if Prince and Rudolph had gone after the bowlers and if we had Polly down the order too.We hopefully won't choke or lose by 1 run against the Sri Lankans and meet the Aussies again in the final.Anyway,credit to the Aussies,they played brilliantly.
 
SA aren't at there full potential. They are missing Nel and Ntini with Langeveldt just coming back from injury and Pollock was out so it was quite hard for them but then again Australia were on fire!
 
The Bracken who took 7/4 against South Australia is in my mind easily more devastating than the Tait who took 7/99 against Queensland, even if you suggest that Tait has more potential. Aside from being tall and capable of bowling on a length, he brings left arm variation and his ability to swing the ball, particularly away from left handers makes him very useful. All in all, I think it's pretty harsh to say a bowler averaging 22 after some 30 odd ODI matches is mediocre, what does that say for Flintoff, Harmison, Hoggard, Nel, Ntini, Vaas, Irfan Pathan or Zaheer Khan, are all these bowlers less than mediocre?

There's just no pleasing some people.

Bracken and Clark bowled reasonably on a pitch that offered them nothing and in a match situation which became more and more irrelevant. Let's not forget Lee went for more than 5 an over as well, he was far from impressive either.

Unfortunately for spectators, for now, South Africa are doing the right thing by their players and taking care of them, with the imminent home Test and ODI series in mind. It's far more important to be sure that they are fit for the Tests than to rush them back for a swing at the VB series. Nel and Ntini would certainly have made impact in this series, just Pollock alone can restrict the opposition signifigantly.

At the other end of things, watching Rudolph and Prince bat, I can't help but wonder what the selectors have against AB De Villiers. I swear Rudolph and Prince are hell bent on batting themselves out of each and every game, while this free scoring wild young talent De Villiers is sitting at home twiddling his thumbs. Furthermore, with Dipenaar in such excellent form, will we see him return to the Test team?
 
Great win for Aussie. And, good fight back by South Africa.
 
angryangy said:
The Bracken who took 7/4 against South Australia is in my mind easily more devastating than the Tait who took 7/99 against Queensland, even if you suggest that Tait has more potential. Aside from being tall and capable of bowling on a length, he brings left arm variation and his ability to swing the ball, particularly away from left handers makes him very useful. All in all, I think it's pretty harsh to say a bowler averaging 22 after some 30 odd ODI matches is mediocre, what does that say for Flintoff, Harmison, Hoggard, Nel, Ntini, Vaas, Irfan Pathan or Zaheer Khan, are all these bowlers less than mediocre?

Good point you make. If the ball is swinging he is more devastating that Tait. But for all pitches Tait would be more devastating and that is shown by his strike rate in First Class and One Day. But I have no problems with Bracken cause he does add variety which we could have used in the Ashes.
 

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