Australia in New Zealand

ZexyZahid

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I was the score was for New Zealand on about 81-3. Required runrate was then very high. But all credit too Styris and especially to McCullum who smashed 50 runs in 25 balls, with two wickets remaining in the last 7 overs. And there was one over remaining in the end!
 

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Yea, i think McCUllum made the difference. I was checking the score when Cairns was just out. I thought NZ lost their way. I was proved wrong.
So a 2-1 loss win the paper says, but much more to that. Almost a win in the second ODI, NZ proved me wrong. Lot of positives for them, especially with Vincent, Vettori, and Styris.
 

ZexyZahid

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Me either. Too bad Symonds didn't got a good score.

But for me this Australia is not the best team possible. Hayden and McGrath are rested, but I hope for Australia Langer and Warne will play during the World Cup 2007. These guys are a big difference makers. Also Martyn is a class act. I hope he gets back. Good to see Clarke getting back in form.

But New Zealand is a good side. They lost the match against South Africa narrowly and also one against Australia.
 
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kodos said:
Katich has to be dropped. Jacques should certainly come in to replace him. Expect Watson to be back in the VB series if he is fit.
I agree with Jaques coming in, but I feel I should make a stand on pronounciation, especially for those around the globe, it's "Jaques" not "Jacques", in other words "Jaykes" not "jaarks". Sorry, but most people will easily mistake something simple like that.

Ok, first up, congrats on the win to the kiwis and indeed, a good series brought, even without key players from both sides, a close game is a good game and I'd certainly rather watch NZ successfully chase 332 than sit around twidling my thumbs (get the hint, Channel Nine).

For Australia, I think what we saw isn't "life without McGrath" it's life without more than 1 strike bowler. Who the f**k is Mitchell Johnson is probably a phrase that will be uttered a considerable time into the future. I must admit, Clark is presenting economy, though I still doubt his total relevance. The key point is that Bracken came into the game as the leading edge, with inexperienced pace bowlers tailing and then, after that, we pulled out the big guns (yeah, sarcasm) Symonds and White. If we are gonna tow 3 inexperienced pacemen as our key attack, we need Dan Cullen in, pronto (not that we shouldn't play him simply because he is an awesome cricketer).

I mean, sure, that game was treated as a dead rubber and with an ounce of cunning, it was used to try some new things. It was a flawed plan, however. Cricket Australia must learn that replacing an aging bowling attack does not simply mean replacing it by rote. 4 quicks and two part timers won't cut the mustard if the four quicks aren't good enough. If Mitchell Johnson is getting a free run with little more than a great fast bowler's support and age on his side, certainly we should be rethinking our future bowling attack.

Cullen is going to be a great player, even one of Chile's senior players agrees! In the ODI days of Warnie, we didn't even give it a second thought. Now this isn't an attack on Hoggie. If you have seen a bit of Hogg, you know he is a true all-rounder, for he can bowl leg breaks, wrong'uns, top spinners, even flippers, a real champion of over-the-wrist spin and can play his shots with ease. I bring this to attention, because replacing him with either White, who can bat, but generally only bowls gentle wrong'uns and top spinners, or any fast bowler, is foolish and will undo the mechanics of a great team.

I say look at the guy whose meer appearance on the field says "wicket taker", whose name is stirring more and more supporters, the fellow who kinks the ball in mid air before letting it jerk mercilessly into his foe. If you're gonna blood a young gun, blood this guy.
 

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ZexyZahid said:
Me either. Too bad Symonds didn't got a good score.

But for me this Australia is not the best team possible. Hayden and McGrath are rested, but I hope for Australia Langer and Warne will play during the World Cup 2007. These guys are a big difference makers. Also Martyn is a class act. I hope he gets back. Good to see Clarke getting back in form.

But New Zealand is a good side. They lost the match against South Africa narrowly and also one against Australia.

why would australia choose langer for ODI's in the world cup? with warne i can understand but they wont pick langer for the world cup
 

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Great great chase by New Zeland... Never thought they were gonna win but in the end they mad a world record chase... absoulotley superb...
 

ZexyZahid

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jazz said:
why would australia choose langer for ODI's in the world cup? with warne i can understand but they wont pick langer for the world cup

Hayden and Langer had opening partnerships in the past in Test cricket. I don't mind him playing in ODI's either. But I think that won't happen, as I see it now. Maybe Australia need to lose again some matches before that happens. ;)
 

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Slater , Langer and now Hayden.
Players any other cricket team in the world would love to have in their ODI team.
Sadly, and amazingly they can't find a place in the Aussie one day side.
 

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I think New Zealand made a great come back. If their game stays as good as yesterdays match they can give a tough competition in world cup. even tough its far but not that far. Well they could get better or worse, but at this time they seem to be going towards better.

I absolutely agree with siddharth , that 6 by jacob oram was magnificent....off the roof. But sad nobody was sitting there to give the ball back. Had it been our own india, we'd be hanging there to get the best veiw and service.
 

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Great win by NZ there, Mitchel Johnson labeleda 'Young Star' by aussie:p Rofl at that!

Hes still a young star. Just brought in too early. Bollinger was the better option as he is more accurate.

White well I didn't want to believe he was a shocker but looks like those A games were right. Still I believe his batting is good enough if Hussey gets injuried. But he is not our specialist spinner.

If Gilly is going to continue to fail we need to rest him so that hes get out of this form slump. Katich won't be dropped just yet although he is doing what Hayden did. Not score 100s and bat slowly. May be the new Hayden will score 100s and get them quicker.
 

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WOW What a game. AND I WAS THERE!!! Muwhahaha. The amount of people getting thrown out was quite embarrising. It was entertaining seeing it happen though and a cop got injured which was quite funny. The cops seemed to provoke some of the bad behavior.

The Australian bowling from everyone apart from Clark was absolutly shocking. They all need to be dropped. Pontings captaincy wasn't top notch.

Us bowling, the captaincy wasn't top notch either, why the hell didn't Styris bowl 3 more. Infact scratch that, why the hell should I care. We just chased a huge score and made a world record win against the best team in the worlds, B bowling attack.

The Series: New Zealand lost by 2 runs. (arrrgggggh!!!!)

We outplayed Australia in those last 2 games in every part of the game. I am so proud. I think this proves that the NZ team is VERY strong. I will go out on a limb and say we are second bes tin the world.

I would say that match would of been much different had we of had Bond and you of had McGrath. But you can't use that as an excuse. You were without your best paceman, we were without ours. Fairly beaten.

That Oram six was amazing. That Vettori catch was stunning. That Vincent drop was heart breaking. That Styris innings was breathtaking and that McCullum and Vettori partnership at the end was simply unbelieveable.

I remember a certain member saying Styris needed dropping. Heh, hes been unlucky til now and again Marshall went out in unfortonate fashion when he looked good.

A lot foy ou are saying its a small ground. Yeah it is small but not the smallest in the country. Most of our sixes were going rows back and even on the roof anyway. Some of husseys though just got over the rope. I must give Hussey Credit and even Bracken for the entertaining hitting at the end. But that was easily topped by our bottom order. We had several failures as did Australia and still a huge amount of runs were scored. The pitch was absolutly terrific for batting.

I am glad we have shattered a few Australian bowlers up.

Our bowling attack was pretty bad too Cairns and Oram got smashed although Oram was unlucky. The pitch was good and they wern't bowling fast enough so they were easy pickings. Despite the fact that some of you have said Martin sucked. I disagree totally. At the beginning he was bowling very well and he took 2 wickets in a row. I predicted 4 but he only got 3. I think there was a dropped catch also so I was close. Anyway he is a huge improvement from James "bowl 2 overs and get taken out of the attack" Franklin.

Twice in a row McCullum and Oram have played fantastic innings at the death.

wow wow wow. Sri Lanka, you are in for an absolute thrashing.
 

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NZ do have a very promising and talented side in terms of their batting. They have extremely long batting and probably deserved to win the series IF they only scored another 2 runs. As i predicted before the series the Aus bowling would be weak (except for the first match) and when Aus don't have McGrath they don't perform as well. This series has shown life without McGrath being quite difficult and Aus probably relies on McGrath too much to keep it economical at one end. Batting is still extremely strong but they need to find a specialist spinner as Cam White barely even turns the ball. Johnson had a bad game but should still be given another go in the VB series.

NZ will be very strong in the world cup with the likes of Bond, Oram, Cairns, Styris, Vettori, Astle, McCullum and Fleming. I am very skeptical that Langer will be reselected in the Aus one-day team and warne will only play for Aus if they continue to struggle for a specialist spinner leading into the world cup.
 

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What a great match!I was listening to it on the radio.After Oram was out,i didn't think for a second that they had a chance.Awesome display by Mccullum and Vettori(Class Player).
 

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